From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [193.201.35.47] (helo=bq8.dotserv.com) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M0Bck-0000ml-NW for openembedded-devel@openembedded.org; Sat, 02 May 2009 11:35:10 +0200 Received: from [10.0.0.5] (port80.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.125.19]) by bq8.dotserv.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n429TTic027266 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 11:29:37 +0200 Message-ID: <49FC1275.7080202@doredevelopment.dk> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 11:29:25 +0200 From: Martin Lund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090223 Thunderbird/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openembedded-devel@openembedded.org References: <49FAE94F.2090101@doredevelopment.dk> <200905020946.08201.marcin@juszkiewicz.com.pl> In-Reply-To: <200905020946.08201.marcin@juszkiewicz.com.pl> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.11 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFB1bGwgcmVxdWVzdCBmcm9tIERvcsOpRGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQgLSBOZXc6IE1pY3JvIGRpc3Ryby9pbWFnZQ==?= X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 09:35:10 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02-05-2009 09:45, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > Dnia pi=C4=85tek, 1 maja 2009 o 14:21:35 Martin Lund napisa=C5=82(a): > =20 >> The "Micro" distribution/image is created because we feel that there >> is a need for a truly tiny and clean distro and image definition in >> OE for those users out there that needs a very tiny Linux rootfs with >> virtually nothing installed except busybox, libc, udev, and a few >> init scripts. On arm the jffs2 image size is only 1 MB (uclibc >> based). No bloat allowed. >> =20 > > You already mentioned that you have a bloat in that image - udev is not > required as busybox-mdev can also populate /dev/ with nodes. > > Regards, > =20 Its still work in progress - thats why I wrote the following in my wiki=20 todo list ;) * Replace udev with mdev (a big maybe, depends on mdev maturity) Initially udev is the one thing that I dont want to compromise too much=20 on functionality - its important that the device nodes are created=20 correctly. Disregarding code size, the real downside by picking mdev is=20 that the implementation supports a different rule base (at least that=20 was so last time I checked - be it some time ago and back then it was=20 also quite buggy). Im going to give mdev a new review soon - most likely I will go with=20 mdev in the end for the sake of keeping things simple and tiny=20 regardless of its limitations. Actually I plan to review the whole busybox configuration to make sure=20 its fit. Br, Martin