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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	roland@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] kernel/sched.c: VLA in middle of struct
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 22:24:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A08DDE2.1080708@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090511204933.GA7737@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>>>> That cpumask[] should probably be cpumask[0], to document the
>>>>> aliasing to ->span and ->cpus properly.
>>>> If the comment wasn't sufficient documentation, I don't think that  
>>>> would help :(
>>> It's a visual helper: it matches up with how we do these 'zero size  
>>> array means dynamic structure continuation' tricks generally.
>>>
>>> I first mis-parsed the code for a second when seeing cpumask[].  
>>> cpumask[0] stands out like a sore thumb. And we dont read comments  
>>> anyway ;-)
>>>
>>> Jeff, i suspect you found this because you are working on something  
>>> rather interesting? :) If yes, would it help your project if we did  
>>> the cpumask[0] cleanup and pushed it upstream immediately?
>> I think cpumask[0] would be more clear and consistent with the 
>> rest of the kernel.
>>
>> But unfortunately for the twin projects of (a) static analysis and 
>> checking with 'sparse', and (b) compiling under another compiler, 
>> VLA-in-middle-of-struct is a killer in either case.
> 
> even if at the end of the struct?

Putting the VLA at the end of the struct would be a huge help, yes.

For example, struct sched_group and struct sched_domain are OK as-is 
(though "[0]" would be preferred).

It is the definition of struct static_sched_group and struct 
static_sched_domain that creates the problem, because with the bitmap 
following cpumask[] and span[], the VLA is no longer at the end of the 
struct.

VLA-in-the-middle raises the complexity required of the compiler quite a 
bit.  As a result, VLA-in-middle is not implemented in sparse or clang 
(LLVM's C front-end and static analyzer).

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-12  2:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-08 18:48 [PATCH 1/2] kernel/{sched,smp}.c: fix static decl prior to struct declaration Jeff Garzik
2009-05-08 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] kernel/sched.c: VLA in middle of struct Jeff Garzik
2009-05-08 19:09   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-10  8:49     ` Rusty Russell
2009-05-10 15:09       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-12 13:34         ` Rusty Russell
2009-05-12 14:03           ` Al Viro
2009-05-13  2:12             ` Rusty Russell
2009-05-13  2:31               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13  5:36               ` Al Viro
2009-05-13  6:49                 ` [PATCH] sched: avoid flexible array member inside struct (gcc extension) Rusty Russell
2009-05-13 13:51                   ` [tip:sched/urgent] " tip-bot for Rusty Russell
2009-05-11 10:58       ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] kernel/sched.c: VLA in middle of struct Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 20:43         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 20:49           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-12  2:24             ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2009-05-12  8:54               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-08 19:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] kernel/{sched,smp}.c: fix static decl prior to struct declaration Ingo Molnar
2009-05-08 19:08   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-08 19:13     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-08 19:38 ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] " Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 11:26   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 20:06     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 20:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 11:30   ` [tip:sched/core] kernel/{sched, smp}.c: " tip-bot for Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 20:02   ` [PATCH 1/2 v3] kernel/{sched,smp}.c: " Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 21:51     ` [tip:sched/urgent] kernel/{sched, smp}.c: " tip-bot for Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 21:56       ` Ingo Molnar

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