From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [216.168.135.169] (helo=starfish.geekisp.com) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M52oM-0002yI-Hp for openembedded-devel@openembedded.org; Fri, 15 May 2009 21:11:29 +0200 Received: (qmail 12848 invoked by uid 1003); 15 May 2009 19:04:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO localhost.localdomain) (philip@opensdr.com@127.0.0.1) by mail.geekisp.com with SMTP; 15 May 2009 19:04:13 -0000 Message-ID: <4A0DBCAC.5000403@balister.org> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:04:12 -0400 From: Philip Balister User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org References: <1241101618.30742.241.camel@mill.internal.reciva.com> <1241695142.16805.170.camel@mill.internal.reciva.com> <4A02CF2A.70804@balister.org> <1242410201.4514.79.camel@lenovo.internal.reciva.com> In-Reply-To: <1242410201.4514.79.camel@lenovo.internal.reciva.com> Subject: Re: progress on OE organization issues X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:11:40 -0000 X-Groupsio-MsgNum: 10384 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040500040104000005090508" --------------ms040500040104000005090508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil Blundell wrote: > On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:08 -0400, Philip Balister wrote: >> My number one concern is that we not create multiple membership groups >> and committees. There is no sense creating groups independent of the eV. > > I guess my problem with this point of view is that I haven't ever really > seen a clear roadmap or timeline for getting the e.V. "deployed" in > practice, nor a definitive statement of what exactly the e.V.'s mission > will be once it is up and running. (In particular there seems to be > some unclarity about whether the e.V. is intended as purely an > administrative vehicle for managing funds, organising servers and the > like, or whether it is to be more of a general project governance > organisation.) So it seems like we might be waiting a long time, only > to discover in the end that, when the e.V. is up and running, it doesn't > actually help us with solving the problems at hand and we are no better > off than if we'd just acted straight away. What exactly are you proposing to do? Philip > > Presumably the existing core team must have some kind of vision for the > exact role that the e.V. would play in this new world, and how we get > there from here, but I've never seen it articulated anywhere. Can you > shed any light on that? > > p. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Openembedded-devel mailing list > Openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org > http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel > --------------ms040500040104000005090508 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJRTCCAv0w ggJmoAMCAQICECwlen/oUcoDd1VrNqKp/fwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDQxNTAwNDQ1OFoXDTEwMDQxNTAwNDQ1 OFowYjERMA8GA1UEBBMIQmFsaXN0ZXIxDzANBgNVBCoTBlBoaWxpcDEYMBYGA1UEAxMPUGhpbGlw IEJhbGlzdGVyMSIwIAYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhNwaGlsaXBAYmFsaXN0ZXIub3JnMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG 9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAx5Xoie8CV9dJeiaiKRdylvicHE9Aha6f9/CLlVs+Ezob7fIu Ra4P9ugzZZ2VCtPMQU3Qsjw35mVmYaKXB1U+fZeffbyad6OJEIK1jhqBIz5jtJMc/YWXn/bRmqCl MfTCgilUMOcsfiHAbmLVhYiNbEhOuy6vWdxSSolHqVa/IHE72qqjhoYWHd+5XVfx1c4jW+CePNMQ EHxjCzuD+wq6Mzle72dXw+bnyIpG99hB26uNmV//h5iz1VmJU63FZWynSjG79NcY9+mTWXeX213V V6kJ2wce2rETbYvKQ7err6NnZnG/tiwGI1M7fQqQAti+CkDciLJ129LO+APVYZQgEwIDAQABozAw LjAeBgNVHREEFzAVgRNwaGlsaXBAYmFsaXN0ZXIub3JnMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEFBQADgYEAIUyDAPIEniN6SUdbDiBqi2dtITdnkoUItm/tX9TRn66P0VtWug7k7xjo6piWRE7B ZwhihotNY0ZnjlK+h0VorxfY63B5tarRB6qJ7f26ukmpltwWWLDB2hWFoKUCn6PE2NTdj+1xNinh ZNQHy4GyygXjlVfVSn/ZnaGJ31z4PK0wggL9MIICZqADAgECAhAsJXp/6FHKA3dVazaiqf38MA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAo UHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTAe Fw0wOTA0MTUwMDQ0NThaFw0xMDA0MTUwMDQ0NThaMGIxETAPBgNVBAQTCEJhbGlzdGVyMQ8wDQYD VQQqEwZQaGlsaXAxGDAWBgNVBAMTD1BoaWxpcCBCYWxpc3RlcjEiMCAGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYTcGhp bGlwQGJhbGlzdGVyLm9yZzCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBAMeV6InvAlfX SXomoikXcpb4nBxPQIWun/fwi5VbPhM6G+3yLkWuD/boM2WdlQrTzEFN0LI8N+ZlZmGilwdVPn2X n328mnejiRCCtY4agSM+Y7STHP2Fl5/20ZqgpTH0woIpVDDnLH4hwG5i1YWIjWxITrsur1ncUkqJ R6lWvyBxO9qqo4aGFh3fuV1X8dXOI1vgnjzTEBB8Yws7g/sKujM5Xu9nV8Pm58iKRvfYQdurjZlf /4eYs9VZiVOtxWVsp0oxu/TXGPfpk1l3l9td1VepCdsHHtqxE22LykO3q6+jZ2Zxv7YsBiNTO30K kALYvgpA3IiyddvSzvgD1WGUIBMCAwEAAaMwMC4wHgYDVR0RBBcwFYETcGhpbGlwQGJhbGlzdGVy Lm9yZzAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBACFMgwDyBJ4jeklHWw4gaotnbSE3 Z5KFCLZv7V/U0Z+uj9FbVroO5O8Y6OqYlkROwWcIYoaLTWNGZ45SvodFaK8X2OtwebWq0Qeqie39 urpJqZbcFliwwdoVhaClAp+jxNjU3Y/tcTYp4WTUB8uBssoF45VX1Up/2Z2hid9c+DytMIIDPzCC AqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rl cm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEo MCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3Rl IFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0 aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoXDTEzMDcxNjIzNTk1OVowYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDE pjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J 8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+n ttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GUMIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4 oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFsRnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmww CwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkGA1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODAN BgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0 HFAgk3A8/a3hYWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowgT2Vfldr394fWxghO rvbqNOUQGls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCA2QwggNgAgEBMHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMC WkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0 ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhAsJXp/6FHKA3dVazaiqf38MAkGBSsOAwIa BQCgggHDMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTA5MDUxNTE5 MDQxMlowIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFHxpe8PyyQ15t+W5+jMANkUtw8OdMFIGCSqGSIb3DQEJDzFF MEMwCgYIKoZIhvcNAwcwDgYIKoZIhvcNAwICAgCAMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgFAMAcGBSsOAwIHMA0G CCqGSIb3DQMCAgEoMIGFBgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxeDB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxU aGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJl ZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQLCV6f+hRygN3VWs2oqn9/DCBhwYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxeKB2MGIx CzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYD VQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQLCV6f+hRygN3VWs2oqn9 /DANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQClk6MgbanYNDV3N/7QQaT27pfGhfiY5IWt8VYTKUt7QHzufmID JyHEpH2dsssg1gwsfUoeH78s2vZyLT9yA+6b7kFx2lYp421PVnzeZzQbVJQiFTssBGYQVF66PsNL 3J9q/pxHF3wQ8czh7lA+46omRfkU3hqUoPszrY0mPnppoxecoARO2rID7ZnHleX40pAuyaSUfv9r QnaeRnypzLFwqHW+tsfQQJ3FJVvXWFx6ZMuo1cC1fwBJAIk/kAo+g1E/qXjue4JLdegyiIW4d2x+ XclR/ak5bHT4tN4MFalvFpoWugV2NqMKLlR4pvJib61i+JmfmdZfEWlIR+COIF53AAAAAAAA --------------ms040500040104000005090508--