From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Stanislav <stlintel@gmail.com>
Cc: 'Anthony Liguori' <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
'Dustin Kirkland' <kirkland@canonical.com>,
'Glauber Costa' <glommer@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>,
'Avi Kivity' <avi@redhat.com>, 'Alex Graf' <alex@csgraf.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/4] Add GPL bios as a submodule
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:22:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A109C3E.70604@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000101c9d71e$8888fec0$999afc40$@com>
Stanislav wrote:
>> What does Coreboot give us over seabios?
>>
>
> You asking :)
>
> - It is much better maintained and sponsored by technology leaders (IBM,
> AMD, Intel).
>
Take a look at who has been contributing to patches to the Bochs BIOS
lately via QEMU :-)
> Also as I understood some of bios stuff is patented, IBM bought these
> patents and contributed them to Coreboot project.
>
Can you point me to specific information about this?
> - I expect it will do support all recent stuff (new ACPI specs, UEFI and
> etc) much faster than seabios.
>
I find this very unlikely. I don't think coreboot bothers with things
like building ACPI tables. Why would it have to when it has a full
Linux environment?
Also, I find it very unlikely that it would bother support uefi
interfaces. Maybe provide tiano core as a payload but we could always
just use tiano core on top of QEMU directly. The problem with uefi is
that you still need a CSM to support 99% of guests out there which means
that you would still need a seabios module for tiano core.
> - It is written for real modern hardware as well so it is validated on real
> life as well.
>
It's a neat project and I think it's valuable to make it more easily
used in QEMU, but I don't think it can replace our existing BIOS. I
also don't think that that's its general mission statement either. I
think its primary purpose is to eliminate all the legacy firmware junk
and provide the quickest and most featureful environment for large clusters.
>> Doesn't Coreboot use seabios for legacy OS?
>>
>
> No idea ...
>
It does.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-17 23:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-17 15:28 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4][RFC] Bring ROM source into tree via git submodules Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 15:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] Add GPL bios as a submodule Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 15:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 15:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 16:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 17:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-17 18:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 18:05 ` Stanislav
2009-05-17 18:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 18:37 ` Stanislav
2009-05-17 19:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 22:12 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-05-17 22:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 23:22 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-05-18 15:20 ` ron minnich
2009-05-18 2:40 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-05-17 23:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-18 4:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-25 13:04 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-05-17 23:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 23:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 23:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 23:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-18 1:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-18 5:48 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 17:10 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-05-17 15:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Add submodule for VGABios Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 15:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] Update makefile to build roms Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 15:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 15:47 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 15:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 17:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 23:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 22:04 ` Paul Brook
2009-05-17 23:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 23:43 ` Paul Brook
2009-05-18 1:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-18 4:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-18 8:25 ` Riku Voipio
2009-05-18 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 15:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Allow tool chain to be specified for bios build Anthony Liguori
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