From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [216.168.135.169] (helo=starfish.geekisp.com) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M7HpV-0008D6-63 for openembedded-devel@openembedded.org; Fri, 22 May 2009 01:37:41 +0200 Received: (qmail 16885 invoked by uid 1003); 21 May 2009 23:30:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO localhost.localdomain) (philip@opensdr.com@127.0.0.1) by mail.geekisp.com with SMTP; 21 May 2009 23:30:00 -0000 Message-ID: <4A15E3F6.2020100@balister.org> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:29:58 -0400 From: Philip Balister User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [RFC] policy about nonworking recipes X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:37:41 -0000 X-Groupsio-MsgNum: 10608 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020804060301020800090201" --------------ms020804060301020800090201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rolf Leggewie wrote: > Koen, > > we're still discussing to find a good solution. No need to get all > worked up yet and calling other people pendantic[sic]. Is it really too > much to ask that the data in OE should generally be such that "bitbake > $target" at least builds? Rolf, Rather than focus your efforts to improve OE by clearly defining what builds and what does not, how about trying to identify a problem felt by a large number of developers? For me (and I hope others), the number one problem is keeping a set of "useful" images building on Angstrom (you could expand this to include other distros). In my mind, having console-image, and some images that support UI's (for machine used with screens etc) would be really helpful. Beyond this, actually making sure the images work on the target hardware would be awesome. It seems like identifying a set of common machines, distros, and hw and making sure we can consistently provide working images would increase the developer base of OE. In turn, this would lead to more people able to improve the complete set of meta-data. We really need to recruit more developers, and the way to do that (I believe) is have more simple stuff just work and work well. 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