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From: "Justin P. Mattock" <justinmattock@gmail.com>
To: Shaz <shazalive@gmail.com>
Cc: selinux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: RBAC with SELinux MCS
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:40:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A4B04DA.6000706@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7b740b700906302318v31f292e1ha98ff6735eb1e3a2@mail.gmail.com>

Shaz wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Justin P. Mattock 
> <justinmattock@gmail.com <mailto:justinmattock@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Shaz wrote:
>
>         Dear list,
>
>         I was studying some earlier work on RBAC and came across
>         Kuhn98 [1], which says that RBAC can be implemented if some
>         interface function is used to map privilege sets of RBAC with
>         MCS. James Moris blog article on MCS [2] states that MCS is
>         just dicretionary like DAC if hierarchies like of MLS levels
>         are not used. It might be because of the implementation of
>         current LSPP on Linux distros. So my question is that can RBAC
>         be used with SELinux if the mapping function is provided?
>
>         Some further literature or existing work being pointed out
>         will be appreciated.
>
>         Thank you.
>
>         [1]
>         http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/rbac/documents/design_implementation/kuhn-98.pdf
>         [2] http://james-morris.livejournal.com/5583.html
>
>         -- 
>         Shaz
>
>     Im guessing the mapping function is "newrole" right!
>     if then yeah you should be able too i.g.
>     newrole -r  *_r -- -c /usr/bin/* (or wherever/whatever your
>     wanting to use in that role).
>     might get complicated with the sensitivity
>     levels and categories(that is if you really tweak them).
>
>
> Is this consistent with NIST RBAC standard to a greater extent? Never 
> use roles in SELinux because thought it was just grouping of users.
>
>
>
>     Justin P. Mattock
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Shaz
>
It should be of standard to NIST(if not then they should fix that)
I don't see it as grouping users(but could be wrong),
I see it as a way of confining the situation i.g.
if  you run an application in certain role, it's confined to
that role and only the privileges that role provides.

Justin P. Mattock




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  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-01  6:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-01  5:15 RBAC with SELinux MCS Shaz
2009-07-01  6:01 ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-07-01  6:18   ` Shaz
2009-07-01  6:40     ` Justin P. Mattock [this message]
2009-07-01  6:44       ` Shaz
2009-07-01  7:41         ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-07-01 14:03 ` Stephen Smalley

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