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From: Eric Valette <eric.valette-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
To: Pekka Paalanen <pq-X3B1VOXEql0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: nouveau-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
	dri-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: When will nouveau kernel tree be merged into master
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:20:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A5626F6.4090607@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090709193053.5a5d6430-cxYvVS3buNOdIgDiPM52R8c4bpwCjbIv@public.gmane.org>

Pekka Paalanen wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:00:29 +0200
> Eric Valette <Eric.Valette-rC/V9kRXU7Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
>> I've been using nouveau driveau for 8 months or so, using automated
>> build from drm git, xf86-video-nouveau git and even sometimes mesa drm
>> git  and discovered the linux-core build did not build the nouveau
>> driver the hard way: X was refusing to start as the nouveau.ko modules
>> was not loaded nor build. Build process did chnage without obvious way
>> to know womething was wrong.
> 
> Nouveau was removed from make targets, therefore you get this:
> 
> $ make nouveau.o
> make: *** No rule to make target `nouveau.o'.  Stop.

Except this is not the way you build linux-core by default...

If you follow the Makefile and make DRM_MODULES=nouveau compilation
fails without telling you this is no more the right way.


> Btw. Nouveau should fall back to NoAccel mode, if the kernel modules are
> not available.

Not in my case. KDM simply does not start.

>> So my question are:
>>     - Why not purely delete nouveau files from linux-core and issue
>> error messages?
> 
> The code is still in the tree for historical reference, and for BSDs.
> I'm not sure if BSDs still need it.

Not a convincing agument!. I wasted a few hours trying to find how to
compile it.


> Yes, and we are trying to alleviate the pain by keeping the guides
> in the wiki up-to-date. Granted, there were the few days, when drm.git
> nouveau.ko build was broken, and the InstallDRM page was not written
> yet, nor InstallNouveau updated. IIRC that was less than a week.

Well I would suggest you to look at GALLIUM3D because using gi to clone
mesa master is not even working and even if you get a git snapshot it
does not build.


> The nouveau kernel tree was annouced on the wiki front page, and on
> the nouveau mailing list. What more should we have done?

I guess I would have done:
	- when configuring drm with the nouveau API, I would have issued a
warning that linux-core will no more build nouveau.ko
	- I would have purely removed the code now that it is no more used or
at least issed an error if DRM_MODULE was containing "nouveau"

-- eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-09 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-09 12:00 When will nouveau kernel tree be merged into master Eric Valette
     [not found] ` <6d4bc9fc0907090806h6b0f7de3i9f7ec673e2cc0e7d@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <4A560B8C.7070809@Free.fr>
     [not found]     ` <4A560B8C.7070809-rC/V9kRXU7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-09 15:31       ` Maarten Maathuis
     [not found]         ` <6d4bc9fc0907090831n64ca31d1pf6d025ef290b3614-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-09 16:38           ` Pekka Paalanen
     [not found]             ` <20090709193853.3dcff28c-cxYvVS3buNOdIgDiPM52R8c4bpwCjbIv@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-09 17:24               ` Eric Valette
     [not found]                 ` <4A5627BF.10807-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-09 17:46                   ` Maarten Maathuis
     [not found] ` <4A55DBDD.6030703-rC/V9kRXU7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-09 16:30   ` Pekka Paalanen
     [not found]     ` <20090709193053.5a5d6430-cxYvVS3buNOdIgDiPM52R8c4bpwCjbIv@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-09 17:20       ` Eric Valette [this message]
     [not found]         ` <4A5626F6.4090607-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-09 17:51           ` Pekka Paalanen
     [not found]             ` <20090709205154.4f613cc5-cxYvVS3buNOdIgDiPM52R8c4bpwCjbIv@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-09 19:51               ` Eric Valette
2009-07-10  7:39                 ` [Nouveau] " Sean Estabrooks
     [not found]                   ` <BLU0-SMTP5459C57EAE328F89E4E6B5AE270-MsuGFMq8XAE@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-10  8:10                     ` Eric Valette
     [not found]                       ` <4A56F779.2090303-rC/V9kRXU7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-10 17:40                         ` Eric Valette
2009-07-10  9:18                     ` Eric Valette
2009-07-10 17:46                     ` Eric Valette
     [not found]                 ` <4A564A3B.1050905-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-10  9:22                   ` Michel Dänzer

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