From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MPNXp-0000lF-JM for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:22:13 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MPNXn-0000kc-1B for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:22:11 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MPNXg-0000fb-4f for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:22:10 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55952 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MPNXg-0000fY-1x for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:22:04 -0400 Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.69]:47953) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MPNXf-0008LS-GU for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:22:03 -0400 Received: from [24.148.247.152] (helo=[192.168.0.199]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MPNXe-0007rT-PC for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:22:02 -0400 Message-ID: <4A57B252.7080805@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:27:46 -0400 From: BandiPat Organization: Magic Page Products User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The development of GRUB 2 References: <20090704201846.GD27480@thorin> <20090707183933.GA14645@thorin> <1247033954.2895.9.camel@ct> <20090710171145.GB17114@thorin> In-Reply-To: <20090710171145.GB17114@thorin> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: c85a64c14a050764b95206241ab561599ef193a6bfc3dd4807b05d2670862253c10d418c1d0ee69a29ca3e42375bd564350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.148.247.152 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 Subject: Re: Some ideas about new features of grub X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:22:11 -0000 Robert Millan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 02:19:14AM -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote: >> On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 20:39 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: >> >>>> With LUA, we can have a more user friendly interface. I like way rEFIt >>>> works, it doesn't require configuration. At runtime, it detects os and >>>> shows an icon for each of them. We can achieve similar goal using lua. >>>> Of course, advanced user can write the menu manually, but for most >>>> user, a smart auto-generated menu may be more appealing. >>> But we have grub-mkconfig for that. This is what distributions shipping >>> GRUB are using. >> That's what distributions shipping GRUB2 are using. Fedora is totally >> unaware of grub-mkconfig, so I have to rerun it every time I install a >> new kernel. >> >> grub-mkconfig won't pick up all filesystems, mounted and unmounted. > > It will if you install os-prober. I think os-prober is only available on > debian yet, but it's not debian-specific. > >> And let's not forget about recovery disks. That's where lua would >> really shine. > > Yes, it's a nice feature. But it's not what most people will use GRUB for. > ======= Actually Zenwalk provides os-prober as well. The gentleman that provides the installer of our Grub2 uses os-prober to detect all OS's installed, so they may be added to the original grub.cfg. Works very well, although not perfect, but we are pretty pleased with the results thus far. We also do not have to run any of the Grub2 programs after installing new kernels. The developer of our installer patched Grub2 for Zenwalk, so that no changes were necessary after kernel updates. He tried to offer this to you guys as well earlier, but got little response, so we use it for Zenwalk exclusively at the moment. Regards, Pat -- ---Zenwalk v6.x--Linux 2.6.30--- Registered Linux User #225206 "Ever tried Zen computing?" http://www.zenwalk.org