From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Florian Manschwetus Subject: Re: Re: [Xen-users] Xen viridian support/features Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:27:55 +0200 Message-ID: <4A6A356B.6060200@gmx.de> References: <11B064048F34FD4094CBA16FC04BE2196072A843@ex01> <20090721072326.GN24960@edu.joroinen.fi> <20090721171533.GT24960@edu.joroinen.fi> <20090723141101.GF5235@york.uk.xensource.com> <20090723141953.GE24960@edu.joroinen.fi> <20090723142715.GG5235@york.uk.xensource.com> <4A68D607.10606@goop.org> <4A69C7FA.6020506@gmx.de> <4A6A1203.1060404@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2113960291==" Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: Andrew Lyon Cc: Xen-devel List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============2113960291== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020006010904010800050309" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020006010904010800050309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 24.07.2009 23:29, schrieb Andrew Lyon: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Florian > Manschwetus wrote: >> Am 24.07.2009 21:31, schrieb Andrew Lyon: >>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Florian >>> Manschwetus wrote: >>>> Uhm, just to get clear in this topic, >>>> the great work of James is not that useful as it supposed in this th= read. >>>> It >>>> leaks reliable support for exactly those Windows Versions with best >>>> Hyper-V >>>> integrations. >>>> So there is the choice to exploit Hyper-V guest integration services= or >>>> absolutely ugly hacking around in a win2008 x64 guest policies with = a >>>> real >>>> great chance to get the guest perfectly and unrecoverable meshed up.= >>>> So it would be great at least to have things like shutdown notificat= ion >>>> out >>>> of the box, as it will be with an viridian interface implementation >>> When you say "shutdown notification" I assume you mean dom0 telling a= >>> hvm guest to shutdown , in which case "xm trigger power" se= ems >>> to do the job with no additional drivers or services required, and >>> should work on most operating systems. >>> >>> Perhaps I misunderstood.. >> Hm no it is fine but when I shutdown dom0 the windows system just get = killed >> (xm shutdown is issued afaik). Furthermore this won't include a back c= hannel > > Yes thats right when the system shuts down xm shutdown is called, I > don't know what happens if a guest fails to shutdown, myself I'd > probably want it to be xm destroyed after a timeout as thats probably > what I'd end up doing anyway, I could easily modify the script for you > so that after trying xm shutdown it sends xm trigger power to > any remaining domains and if any still fail to shutdown I could make > it destroy them. > > Its something I looked into and could do in few minutes, I just didn't > bother because all of our servers have remote kvm and 99% of reboots > are supervised, but let me know if you'd like me to make a patch for > you. > > Andy Would be great until a more sophisticated way is realized. Florian > > >> (does it work?) and not every system surely shutsdown when powerbutton= is >> pressed, maybe there must be a bit configured... >> >> Florian >>> Andy >>> . >>>> Again if xen provides a feature using viridian API win2008 x64 guest= s >>>> would >>>> use it without ANY modification. >>>> >>>> Florian >>>> >>>> Am 23.07.2009 23:28, schrieb Jeremy Fitzhardinge: >>>>> On 07/23/09 07:27, Tim Deegan wrote: >>>>>> At 15:19 +0100 on 23 Jul (1248362393), Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Any plans to write support for paravirtual viridian disk/network >>>>>>> backends? >>>>>>> (I assume they have stuff like that implemented in hyper-v). >>>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think anyone's doing that, but there is a choice of Xen PV= >>>>>> drivers for Windows that will do the job. Are the PV driver inter= faces >>>>>> even public? I don't remember seeing them in the hyper-v spec, th= ough >>>>>> I >>>>>> haven't read the latest version. >>>>>> >>>>> They were implicitly published, at least to some extent, in the for= m of >>>>> the big HyperV PV driver dump for Linux. But I don't think those >>>>> drivers are very featureful yet, though they claim to be planning t= o >>>>> release more updates. >>>>> >>>>> J >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xen-users mailing list >>>>> Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >>>>> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xen-users mailing list >>>> Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >>>> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >>>> >> >> > --------------ms020006010904010800050309 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKlDCC BUYwggMuoAMCAQICAwQsXDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADB5MRAwDgYDVQQKEwdSb290IENBMR4w HAYDVQQLExVodHRwOi8vd3d3LmNhY2VydC5vcmcxIjAgBgNVBAMTGUNBIENlcnQgU2lnbmlu 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