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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
	<containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
	kt-S89nZTSLPHGGdvJs77BJ7Q@public.gmane.org,
	Dietmar Maurer <dietmar-YTcQvvOqK21BDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	lxc-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [lxc-devel] Memory Resources
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:37:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A9D69CD.8050109@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090831163114.GA13896-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Daniel Lezcano (daniel.lezcano-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org):
>   
>> Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>>     
>>>> The idea of Kamezawa-san to use a fuse proc is maybe a good idea in 
>>>> this  case. So we can address the entire /proc specific informations. 
>>>> For      
>>>>         
>>> I agree, nice idea.  And hopefully pretty simple to whip up for the
>>> meminfo and cpuinfo files as an example.
>>>
>>> Are you thinking a fuse fs which takes a config file, holds an open
>>> ref to its ancestor /proc, and for each file looks in a config file to
>>> decide whether to show userspace:
>>> 	1. nothing
>>> 	2. the underlying file, unprocessed
>>> 	3. a simple ascii file instead
>>> 	4. the underlying file, processed?
>>>   
>>>       
>> Yes, exactly :)
>> But, I am not sure how to retrieve the container context, I mean how to  
>> pick and return the right information.
>> eg: in the container foo, when looking at /proc/meminfo, fuse-lxcfs  
>> should process /cgroup/foo/(somefiles), how to know the request is  
>> coming from 'foo' without doing multiple mount, one in each container ?
>>     
>
> Why without doing one mount per container?  :)
>
> I figure the container can be responsible for the actual mounting,
> if it cares.  The host/kernel should keep it *safe* for the container
> to use unfiltered /proc (, /sys, /cgroup, etc), but the container
> can be responsible for filtering it however much it feels necessary.
>
> (That fits with the 2006 kernel summit pseudo-decree that we are not
> trying to fake a container into thinking it is a real host, only
> make the container useful.)
>
> Are you worried about the extra memory overhead?
>   

Well, I am used to see a single instance of a daemon like sshfs :)
I am not used of fuse, I will play a bit with a trivial fuse-lxcfs to 
see how that behaves with a container.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-01 18:37 UTC|newest]

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2009-08-23 16:18   ` [lxc-devel] Memory Resources Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]     ` <4A916BC9.8040905-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-23 16:59       ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-23 18:00           ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]             ` <4A9183B2.7090005-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-23 18:17               ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-23 18:38                   ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-23 19:22                       ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-23 20:05                           ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                             ` <4A91A103.6020207-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-23 20:18                               ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-23 21:00                                   ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                                     ` <4A91ADE1.9090204-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-23 21:12                                       ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-24  0:27                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                                             ` <20090824092739.70d56a5b.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-24  0:40                                               ` Krzysztof Taraszka
2009-08-24  6:17                                               ` [Devel] " Dietmar Maurer
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2009-08-24  6:58                                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                                                     ` <20090824155835.94f6b88f.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-24  7:17                                                       ` Balbir Singh
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2009-08-24  7:18                                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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2009-08-25  9:46                                                               ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-24  0:48                                       ` Krzysztof Taraszka
2009-08-24  0:58                                       ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-24 10:58                                                         ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-24 11:13                                                           ` Daniel Lezcano
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2009-08-24 11:31                                                               ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-24 14:11                                                                   ` Daniel Lezcano
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2009-08-24 16:26                                                                       ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-24 16:30                                                                           ` Daniel Lezcano
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2009-08-24 16:36                                                                               ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-24 19:22                                                                                   ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-24 23:03                                                                                       ` Krzysztof Taraszka
2009-08-26  1:43                                                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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2009-08-26 12:11                                                                           ` Daniel Lezcano
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2009-08-26 13:50                                                                               ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-26 23:25                                                                                   ` Krzysztof Taraszka
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2009-08-28  9:32                                                                                       ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <4A97A448.5050506-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-30 23:56                                                                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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2009-08-31  9:24                                                                                               ` Daniel Lezcano
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2009-08-31 10:02                                                                                                   ` Dietmar Maurer
2009-08-31 13:40                                                                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
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2009-08-31 14:41                                                                                               ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                                                                                                 ` <4A9BE134.5040804-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-31 14:54                                                                                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
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2009-08-31 15:18                                                                                                       ` Daniel Lezcano
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2009-08-31 15:47                                                                                                           ` Daniel Lezcano
2009-08-31 16:31                                                                                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                                                                                             ` <20090831163114.GA13896-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-01 18:37                                                                                                               ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]

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