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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
	"Xen-Devel (E-mail)" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: RE: rdtsc: correctness vs performance on Xen  (and KVM?)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:44:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A9EE74F.1000605@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C6C3DB36.13B28%keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>

On 09/02/09 00:20, Keir Fraser wrote:
> The problem is a bit easier with vsyscall potentially. For example, give
> each thread its own vsyscall clock data area (easy?), updated by kernel
> whenever the thread is scheduled, and increment a version counter, checked
> before and after by the vsyscall operation.
>   

Yes.  Perhaps the very simplest way would be to make the kernel update
the pvclock version counter on context switch, the same way Xen does;
that would allow the usermode vsyscall code to use exactly the same
algorithm as the kernel code.  Would Xen cope with that?

> Well, I don't know how easy or fast that could actually be implemented, but
> I'm at least confident it could work. But it does need kernel assistance.
>   

Yes.  I'm very uneasy about letting usermode have direct access to bits
of Xen without the kernel's knowledge anyway.  It suddenly means we need
to not only maintain a Xen<->kernel ABI, but a Xen<->usermode ABI as well.

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-02 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-25 21:54 write_tsc in a PV domain? Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-25 22:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-08-25 23:09   ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-26  6:23     ` Keir Fraser
2009-08-26 15:42       ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-26 15:58         ` Keir Fraser
2009-08-26 19:45         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-08-26 20:23           ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-26 22:30             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-08-26 23:10               ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-27  8:39                 ` Chris Lalancette
2009-08-27 13:00                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-27 13:17                     ` Chris Lalancette
2009-08-27  8:48               ` Alan Cox
2009-08-27 19:10                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-08-28  3:29                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-28  9:49                     ` Alan Cox
2009-08-28 15:16                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-28 15:30                         ` Alan Cox
2009-08-28 17:49                           ` rdtsc: correctness vs performance on Xen (and KVM?) Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-31 23:52                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-09-01  0:22                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-01 13:54                                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-09-01 14:34                                   ` Keir Fraser
2009-09-01 14:53                                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-09-01 15:08                                       ` Keir Fraser
2009-09-01 15:26                                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-09-01 15:32                                           ` Jan Beulich
2009-09-01 15:56                                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-09-01 16:04                                               ` Jan Beulich
2009-09-01 16:41                                                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-09-02  7:05                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2009-09-01 21:25                                                 ` Keir Fraser
2009-09-01 22:08                                                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-09-01 22:21                                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-01 22:41                                                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-09-01 23:26                                                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-02  7:20                                                           ` Keir Fraser
2009-09-02 21:44                                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2009-09-02 21:50                                                               ` Keir Fraser
2009-09-02 22:05                                                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-03  8:23                                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2009-09-03 17:29                                                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-04  7:19                                                                       ` Jan Beulich
2009-09-04 15:44                                                                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-03 14:22                                                                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-09-02  7:16                                                     ` Jan Beulich
2009-09-02  7:01                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2009-09-01 16:06                                               ` Keir Fraser
2009-09-01 16:55                                                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-09-01 15:43                                           ` Keir Fraser
2009-08-28 17:49                           ` write_tsc in a PV domain? Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-28 17:02                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-08-28 17:49                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-28 23:01                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-08-29 17:51                           ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-31 18:11                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-08-31 19:06                               ` Keir Fraser
2009-08-31 21:06                                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-09-01  7:16                                   ` Keir Fraser
2009-08-31 19:18                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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