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From: Andrew Theurer <habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Brian Jackson <iggy@theiggy.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: Use thread debug register storage instead of kvm specific data
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:08:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AA13B93.2090501@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200909041030.39291.iggy@theiggy.com>

Brian Jackson wrote:
> On Friday 04 September 2009 09:48:17 am Andrew Theurer wrote:
> <snip>
>>> Still not idle=poll, it may shave off 0.2%.
>> Won't this affect SMT in a negative way?  (OK, I am not running SMT now,
>> but eventually we will be) A long time ago, we tested P4's with HT, and
>> a polling idle in one thread always negatively impacted performance in
>> the sibling thread.
>>
>> FWIW, I did try idle=halt, and it was slightly worse.
>>
>> I did get a chance to try the latest qemu (master and next heads).  I
>> have been running into a problem with virtIO stor driver for windows on
>> anything much newer than kvm-87.  I compiled the driver from the new git
>> tree, installed OK, but still had the same error.  Finally, I removed
>> the serial number feature in the virtio-blk in qemu, and I can now get
>> the driver to work in Windows.
> 
> What were the symptoms you were seeing (i.e. define "a problem").

Device manager reports "a problem code 10" occurred, and the driver 
cannot initialize.

Vadim Rozenfeld informed me:
> There is a sanity check in the code, which checks the I/O range and fails if is not equal to 40h.
> Resent virtio-blk devices have I/O range equal to 0x400 (serial number feature). So, out signed  viostor driver will fail on the latest KVMs. This problem was fixed 
and committed to SVN some time ago.

I assumed the fix was to the virtio windows driver, but I could not get 
the driver I compiled from latest git to work either (only on 
qemu-kvm-87).  So, I just backed out the serial number feature in qemu, 
and it worked.  FWIW, the linux virtio-blk driver never had a problem.

> 
>> So, not really any good news on performance with latest qemu builds.
>> Performance is slightly worse:
>>
>> qemu-kvm-87
>> user  nice  system   irq  softirq guest   idle  iowait
>> 5.79  0.00    9.28  0.08     1.00 20.81  58.78    4.26
>> total busy: 36.97
>>
>> qemu-kvm-88-905-g6025b2d (master)
>> user  nice  system   irq  softirq guest   idle  iowait
>> 6.57  0.00   10.86  0.08     1.02 21.35  55.90    4.21
>> total busy: 39.89
>>
>> qemu-kvm-88-910-gbf8a05b (next)
>> user  nice  system   irq  softirq guest   idle  iowait
>> 6.60  0.00  10.91   0.09     1.03 21.35  55.71    4.31
>> total busy: 39.98
>>
>> diff of profiles, p1=qemu-kvm-87, p2=qemu-master
>>
> <snip>
>> 18x more samples for gfn_to_memslot_unali*, 37x for
>> emulator_read_emula*, and more CPU time in guest mode.
>>
>> One other thing I decided to try was some cpu binding.  I know this is
>> not practical for production, but I wanted to see if there's any benefit
>> at all.  One reason was that a coworker here tried binding the qemu
>> thread for the vcpu and the qemu IO thread to the same cpu.  On a
>> networking test, guest->local-host, throughput was up about 2x.
>> Obviously there was a nice effect of being on the same cache.  I
>> wondered, even without full bore throughput tests, could we see any
>> benefit here.  So, I bound each pair of VMs to a dedicated core.  What I
>> saw was about a 6% improvement in performance.  For a system which has
>> pretty incredible memory performance and is not that busy, I was
>> surprised that I got 6%.  I am not advocating binding, but what I do
>> wonder:  on 1-way VMs, if we keep all the qemu threads together on the
>> same CPU, but still allowing the scheduler to move them (all of them at
>> once) to different cpus over time, would we see the same benefit?
>>
>> One other thing:  So far I have not been using preadv/pwritev.  I assume
>> I need a more recent glibc (on 2.5 now) for qemu to take advantage of
>> this?
> 
> Getting p(read|write)v working almost doubled my virtio-net throughput in a 
> Linux guest. Not quite as much in Windows guests. Yes you need glibc-2.10. I 
> think some distros might have backported it to 2.9. You will also need some 
> support for it in your system includes.

Thanks, I will try a newer glibc, or maybe just move to a newer Linux 
installation which happens to have a newer glic.

-Andrew


  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-04 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-01  9:44 [PATCH] KVM: Use thread debug register storage instead of kvm specific data Avi Kivity
2009-09-01  9:47 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-01 18:12   ` Andrew Theurer
2009-09-01 18:23     ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-04 14:48       ` Andrew Theurer
2009-09-04 15:30         ` Brian Jackson
2009-09-04 16:08           ` Andrew Theurer [this message]
2009-09-04 17:04             ` Brian Jackson
2009-09-05 11:34               ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2009-09-06 12:49                 ` Yan Vugenfirer
2009-09-06  8:21         ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-01 10:42 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-01 11:08   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-01 11:16   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-01 11:21     ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-01 13:31     ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-01 13:39       ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-01 11:22 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-09-01 11:28   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-01 11:32     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-09-01 11:35       ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-01 11:33     ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-01 11:43       ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-01 11:45         ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-01 11:56           ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-01 12:01             ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-01 12:02               ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-01 12:27                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-01 11:34   ` Avi Kivity

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