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From: Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] re-set rtc date on reset handler
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:28:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AA79F67.9060401@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AA68DBB.9080000@siemens.com>

On 09/08/2009 08:00 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> Blue Swirl wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Glauber Costa<glommer@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>>>> guests without a stable timesource such as kvm-clock will grab the wallclock
>>>>> from our rtc chip. However, we only sync the date when we first launch qemu.
>>>>> If a guest goes through a series of reboot cycles, it will slowly see time
>>>>> getting far behind the host.
>>>>>
>>>>> The proposal of this patch is to set the date to host clock again in the reset
>>>>> handler. With this patch, I see a Fedora guest keeping its clock in sync upon
>>>>> an ulimited number of reboots.
>>>> A different approach is used in m48t59.c: the guest clock is generated
>>>> directly from host clock without any timers and only a fixed offset
>>>> (to account for time when guest was stopped) is added, so the clock
>>>> will always in sync.
>>> Ah, that looks like a useful approach! We currently face the issue of
>>> vRTC drifting away from the host time (as the latter is tuned by NTP).
>>>
>>> Do you or anyone else know if switching the PC RTC over to the scheme
>>> used in the m48t59 may have some downsides? If not, I would happily hack
>>> up a patch ASAP and suggest it for mainline.
>>
>> Clearly, one downside is that a jumping host time will cause the RTC to
>> jump as well. However, there might by setups where this does not happen,
>> so optionally switching the RTC over rt_clock seems like a reasonable
>> feature to me.
>>
>> What about consolidating -localtime, -starttime and -rtc-td-hack at this
>> chance? Something like
>>
>>   -rtc base=utc|localtime|date,clock=vm|rt
>
> + ,td-hack=on|off
>
> of course. Or let's call it "drift-hack".

btw: this is not a hack, its virtualization support for rtc.
It should be the default when qemu runs along with kvm.

>
>>
>> with 'date' specifying the base as in -starttime. 'clock' would then
>> allow to drive the RTC via the host's CLOCK_REALTIME (with all its pros
>> and cons).
>>
>> Jan
>>
>
> Jan
>

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-09 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-01 16:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] re-set rtc date on reset handler Glauber Costa
2009-09-01 16:56 ` Blue Swirl
2009-09-01 23:00   ` Glauber Costa
2009-09-08 14:55     ` Dor Laor
2009-09-08 16:15   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-09-08 16:50     ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-08 17:00       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 12:28         ` Dor Laor [this message]
2009-09-09 12:57           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 13:27             ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-09 13:31               ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 15:04                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-09 15:34                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 16:09                     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-09-09 17:52                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 18:40                         ` Gleb Natapov
2009-09-09 18:50                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 18:25                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-09 18:33                       ` Anthony Liguori

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