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From: Xavier Roche <roche+kml2@exalead.com>
To: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Inter-process send()/recv() using zero-copy ?
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:01:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AB9B9B7.1020309@exalead.com> (raw)

Hi folks,

I was wondering if there was a way to have zero-copy send()/recv(), when 
the socket is connected to the local machine (to another process on the 
same machine, for example) ?

Such feature would be only feasible with page-aligned blocks, from an a 
mmap'ed block to another one, I guess.

Typical case:

Process #1 (uid A)
buff = mmap(0, size, ..) /* anonymous or not */
...
send(s, buff, size, 0)
munmap(buff, size)

Process #2 (uid B)
buff = mmap(0, size, .. | MAP_ANONYMOUS, ..)
recv(s, buff, size, 0)

In an ideal fantasy world, the first process would use send() to 
transmit the complete page-aligned memory block to the other side, and 
the second process would use recv() to get the memory block on a similar 
anonymously mmap'ed block, and the only operation the kernel would do 
would be to share the memory block between the two processes with 
copy-on-write.

On the real world, the same operation requires a first read of the whole 
memory block (possibly partially on disk) and a complete write (possibly 
partially on disk, too) with two copies of the same memory region at the 
end.

Two solutions can be used to emulate such feature:

1. use a temporary mmap'ed file
- but requires a temporary file
- permissions for the file ? (not necessarily from the same UID)
- special case for local network block transmissions vs. machine-to-machine

2. use shared memory explicitely
- handling of permissions ? (ditto)
- special case for local network block transmissions vs. machine-to-machine

splice() and friends do not appear to give any help for this case, and I 
was wondering if there was a chance to do that ?


             reply	other threads:[~2009-09-23  6:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-23  6:01 Xavier Roche [this message]
2009-09-23  6:43 ` Inter-process send()/recv() using zero-copy ? Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-23  6:51   ` Nikita V. Youshchenko
2009-09-23  7:04   ` Xavier Roche

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