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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@voltaire.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arndbergmann@googlemail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH-updated] qemu/net: add raw backend
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:36:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AD61A31.1080109@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091014161424.GA30308@redhat.com>

Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> I keep hearing this. But why wait? Some users can be helped
> by raw today. Those that can't will have to wait for a better bridge
> or spend time setting it up properly.
>   

Because for every user who understands the limitations of the raw socket 
interface and is willing to accept them in order to avoid setting up a 
bridge, there will be a dozen who's experience will be worse because 
they tried the raw socket interface and it behaved in a way that they 
didn't expect.

We aren't talking about adding a feature here.  We're talking about 
adding something that's supposed to be "easier" but I'm arguing that 
it's not easier unless you're a kernel hacker and deeply understand the 
limitations of the implementation.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-14 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-14 14:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH-updated] qemu/net: add raw backend Or Gerlitz
2009-10-14 14:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 15:14   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-14 15:58     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 16:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 16:54         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-14 17:20           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 18:36         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-10-14 19:37           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15  7:48           ` Or Gerlitz
2009-10-14 15:58     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 15:24   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 15:33     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-15  7:29       ` Or Gerlitz
2009-10-15  7:44         ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-15  7:50           ` Or Gerlitz
2009-10-14 16:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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