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From: Don Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>
To: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Cc: Stefan Assmann <sassmann@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
	kaneshige.kenji@jp.fujitsu.com, matthew@wil.cx
Subject: Re: GT/s vs Gbps for PCIe bus speed
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:49:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AD62B52.9060200@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3ljjdstbb.fsf@intrepid.localdomain>

Krzysztof Halasa wrote:
> Stefan Assmann <sassmann@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> IMHO this is rather confusing, as most people don't know what GT/s means.
> 
> It's trivial to look it up, isn't it?
> 
>> So I'd suggest the following change:
>>
>> --- a/drivers/pci/hotplug/pci_hotplug_core.c
>> +++ b/drivers/pci/hotplug/pci_hotplug_core.c
>> @@ -86,8 +86,8 @@ static char *pci_bus_speed_strings[] = {
>>  	"66 MHz PCIX 533",	/* 0x11 */
>>  	"100 MHz PCIX 533",	/* 0x12 */
>>  	"133 MHz PCIX 533",	/* 0x13 */
>> -	"2.5 GT/s PCI-E",	/* 0x14 */
>> -	"5.0 GT/s PCI-E",	/* 0x15 */
>> +	"2.5 Gbps PCI-E",	/* 0x14 */
>> +	"5.0 Gbps PCI-E",	/* 0x15 */
> 
> Isn't it like calling 100BASE-TX a 125 Mb/s? _That_ would be confusing.
> BTW PCI-E can be multi-lane so Mb/s (and even MB/s) don't make sense.
> I guess many people don't know what a MHz is either but we don't say
> 133 MHz = 133 Mbps.

so, maybe the right terms are
 2.5 GHz PCI-E
 5.0 GHz PCI-E

No matter how many lanes, or how the data is sent (long or short bursts),
the frequency rate is a constant.

So, the data rate is not stated, just the cycle rate.
This would follow the PCIX syntax as well, which is
void of bandwidth illusions.

- Don

ps -- "GT/s" isn't even defined in the PCIe spec, just
      blindly introduced, and unjustified in its use.
      ..... too much marketing-speak in PCI SIG ...


  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-14 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-14  8:42 GT/s vs Gbps for PCIe bus speed Stefan Assmann
2009-10-14 18:51 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-10-14 19:49   ` Don Dutile [this message]
2009-10-14 20:50     ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-15  7:32       ` Kenji Kaneshige
2009-10-14 21:33     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-10-14 22:51       ` Don Dutile
2009-10-15  7:40         ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-15 14:05           ` Don Dutile
2009-10-15 17:58         ` Krzysztof Halasa

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