From: berk walker <berk@panix.com>
To: Mattias Wadenstein <maswan@acc.umu.se>
Cc: Christian Pernegger <pernegger@gmail.com>,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, adfas asd <chimera_god@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Is My Data DESTROYED?!
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:49:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE2410A.10603@panix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64.0910232250100.5182@montezuma.acc.umu.se>
Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, Christian Pernegger wrote:
>
>>> I believe you are confusing raid with backup.
>>
>> For lots of people the primary role of RAID is as a protection against
>> data-loss nowadays. Backups just aren't feasible/cost-effective
>> anymore for the amounts of data involved. Sticking your head in the
>> sand and repeating that mantra doesn't change that and it isn't
>> helping.
>
> Well, claiming that RAID will protect your data under all circumstances
> isn't helping either. Backups will actually protect against such things
> as rm -rf:ing the wrong directory or mkfs:ing the wrong device, etc.
> Things that RAID will never protect against.
>
> And I don't see how backups aren't feasable, USB/network harddrives keep
> pace with in-box harddrive sizes just fine. Offsite backup might be
> trickier/costlier, so you might constrain those to just the data that
> you would be really sad to see gone if the house burns down (photo
> album, own creations, etc).
>
> /Mattias Wadenstein
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Sir - Whereas Neil, et al, profess that RAID is NOT equal to BACKUP -
Most of us know that tape backup is VERY costly, in several ways, in our
multi-terrabyte situations. Your mention of USB/network solutions does
beg the obvious question-- How would one do USB/network solutions
without some degree of encoded backup, and trust? BTW, worse yet is
implied trust in Cloud, eh?
And then, you say:
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-23 23:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <70ed7c3e0910221840o795a61b9u77774725386868e2@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-23 2:04 ` Is My Data DESTROYED?! adfas asd
2009-10-23 20:32 ` Billy Crook
2009-10-23 20:46 ` Christian Pernegger
2009-10-23 20:57 ` Mattias Wadenstein
2009-10-23 21:44 ` Billy Crook
2009-10-23 22:00 ` adfas asd
2009-10-23 22:46 ` Billy Crook
2009-10-23 22:49 ` adfas asd
2009-10-23 23:54 ` berk walker
2009-10-24 0:13 ` berk walker
2009-10-25 0:22 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-23 21:55 ` adfas asd
2009-10-23 22:36 ` Guy Watkins
2009-10-23 23:05 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-10-23 23:20 ` adfas asd
2009-10-23 23:20 ` NeilBrown
2009-10-23 23:25 ` Ben DJ
2009-10-24 3:39 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-10-24 12:01 ` adfas asd
2009-10-24 14:59 ` Christopher Chen
2009-10-25 1:52 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-25 2:03 ` Christopher Chen
2009-10-25 2:30 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-25 5:26 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-10-25 5:41 ` Guy Watkins
2009-10-25 6:21 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2009-10-25 22:55 ` Guy Watkins
2009-10-26 1:36 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-26 2:40 ` Guy Watkins
2009-10-26 7:32 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2009-10-26 18:14 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-10-26 23:14 ` John Robinson
2009-10-27 2:50 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-27 3:15 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-10-27 14:37 ` adfas asd
2009-11-02 22:53 ` NiftyFedora Mitch
2009-10-26 23:21 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-25 6:15 ` Christopher Chen
2009-10-25 13:06 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-25 12:46 ` adfas asd
2009-10-25 13:38 ` Gabor Gombas
2009-10-25 15:47 ` adfas asd
2009-10-25 18:12 ` Christopher Chen
2009-10-25 18:33 ` Gabor Gombas
2009-10-25 14:16 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-25 16:06 ` adfas asd
2009-10-25 16:58 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-10-26 0:55 ` Doug Ledford
2009-10-26 12:22 ` adfas asd
2009-10-25 16:49 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-10-25 1:28 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-23 23:49 ` berk walker [this message]
2009-10-25 1:36 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-25 1:50 ` Christopher Chen
2009-10-25 2:20 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-27 21:08 adfas asd
2009-10-27 21:11 ` John Robinson
2009-10-27 21:22 ` adfas asd
2009-10-27 21:31 ` Christian Pernegger
2009-10-27 21:56 ` adfas asd
2009-10-28 3:14 ` Guy Watkins
[not found] <1256656849.15137.126.camel@poledra.romunt.nl>
2009-10-27 20:31 ` adfas asd
2009-10-27 20:39 ` Ryan Wagoner
2009-10-27 21:00 ` Christian Pernegger
2009-10-28 0:39 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-28 2:57 ` Rudy Zijlstra
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-10-26 12:56 adfas asd
2009-10-26 18:21 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-10-27 14:32 ` adfas asd
2009-10-27 14:36 ` Gabor Gombas
2009-10-27 14:40 ` adfas asd
2009-10-27 18:22 ` Ryan Wagoner
2009-10-28 9:50 ` Lars Schimmer
2009-10-27 20:45 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-10-27 20:53 ` adfas asd
2009-10-27 21:00 ` Ryan Wagoner
2009-10-27 21:05 ` adfas asd
[not found] <70ed7c3e0910221912h70b33ca0m3df9eedd9a54c459@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-23 2:18 ` adfas asd
2009-10-23 2:43 ` Majed B.
2009-10-23 2:59 ` adfas asd
2009-10-23 3:14 ` Majed B.
2009-10-23 19:24 ` adfas asd
2009-10-23 23:07 ` NeilBrown
2009-10-23 23:25 ` adfas asd
2009-10-23 23:39 ` Majed B.
2009-10-24 4:37 ` NeilBrown
2009-10-25 0:54 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-10-23 22:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-10-23 22:41 ` adfas asd
2009-10-24 9:02 ` Luca Berra
2009-10-23 2:30 ` adfas asd
2009-10-23 22:28 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-10-26 15:38 ` Darius S. Naqvi
2009-10-23 1:36 adfas asd
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