From: Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Sean Hefty <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
"'David J. Wilder'"
<dwilder-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-rdma <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] link-local address fix for rdma_resolve_addr
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:52:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE43BED.3090405@voltaire.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091022062531.GB26003-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> Mainly for RDMA what you get is more kernel flexability, IP like
> capabilities, better bonding, and better support of IB APM semantics:
> - bind() + listen() actually works properly if more than one
> interface is bound to the same IP - the cm_id returned by accept is
> bound to the hca and port that accepted the connection
> [ This is a L3 form of bonding Linux supports ]
>
> This is actually something of a mandatory notion to implement the
> full generality of the IB CM protocol which allows the CM REP to
> contain a port GUID of another port on the same node (multi-port
> APM is an IB feature). So you never know what port the accept()
> result will get bound to.
>
> BTW: I suppose ideally AF_IB would have a way to say 'CM accept REPs on
> any port on this node' Hmm, reserved GID prefix perhaps? Hmm.
>
> When used with bonding this would also afford the kernel with the
> ability to accept incoming connections across all the redundant
> RDMA devices - and still have correct bound-to-IP semantics.
>
> - rdma_resolve_addr more or less as the inverse of all the above
> * multiple interfaces with same IP case works, kernel and routing
> table can distribute outgoing connections
> * multi-port APM works, kernel and user space can choose primary
> and backup port for the IP addy
> * bonding works, kernel can balance outgoing connections across the
> bond slaves.
>
> These are all useful features.
Jason, Have you even looked into or tested any of the bonding
load-balancing modes with ipoib? some/most of them are not applicable to
IPoIB and I don't think that the ones which may be such were ever
tested. Next, multiple interfaces with the same ip address isn't
something I see very useful for production environment (but I'd be happy
to get educated what L3 bonding is and where it can play), next,
multi-port APM isn't something I ever heard to be required by customers
and more important, from comments made by Sean in the past, I don't
think it fits the rdma-cm spirit.
All in all, someone comes here and suggests some fixes to the rdma-cm
address resolution code to have IPv6 work. I don't think Dave should
carry on his back/patch all your proposed future enhancements. Let him
fix things and following that you can work on the patches to support all
these nice/nitch features starting with IPv4 and then IPv6.
Or
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-19 22:47 [PATCH] link-local address fix for rdma_resolve_addr David J. Wilder
[not found] ` <1255992430.12075.7.camel-XfwDJb4SXxnMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-19 23:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091019234329.GC9643-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-19 23:47 ` Sean Hefty
[not found] ` <676AB781CD644CC28E1AD4951EA4EEF8-Zpru7NauK7drdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-20 0:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091020003344.GA14520-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 22:30 ` David J. Wilder
[not found] ` <1256164230.12075.31.camel-XfwDJb4SXxnMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 23:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091021230845.GR14520-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 21:12 ` David J. Wilder
[not found] ` <1256245942.12075.46.camel-XfwDJb4SXxnMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 22:02 ` Sean Hefty
[not found] ` <660D538F30E647F3AE1E5E6C1ACBE882-Zpru7NauK7drdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-27 18:22 ` David J. Wilder
[not found] ` <1256667738.16192.1.camel-XfwDJb4SXxnMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-27 18:58 ` [PATCH] librdmacm/cmatose: add support for ipv6 Sean Hefty
[not found] ` <EE6710D62B854E4FBA82524DEB84E8DC-Zpru7NauK7drdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-27 19:42 ` Sean Hefty
2009-10-27 21:50 ` David J. Wilder
2009-10-21 23:17 ` [PATCH] link-local address fix for rdma_resolve_addr Sean Hefty
[not found] ` <9D257695083141E79685CB2B260D7D7C-Zpru7NauK7drdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 23:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091021233639.GS14520-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 23:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-21 23:58 ` Sean Hefty
[not found] ` <BFF5CD71FFA74BF09A2EED5F3319F370-Zpru7NauK7drdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 0:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091022002846.GU14520-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 0:40 ` Sean Hefty
[not found] ` <4803112A5B7A4953B62ABAFD1BBD9881-Zpru7NauK7drdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 1:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091022011939.GW14520-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 5:24 ` Sean Hefty
[not found] ` <60E9443821EE4FFA90448DF5CC1368A8-Zpru7NauK7drdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 6:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091022062531.GB26003-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 6:49 ` Sean Hefty
[not found] ` <B1D32A650C2F400E92AFC4909D8880A0-Zpru7NauK7drdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 16:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091022164717.GG26003-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 17:59 ` Sean Hefty
[not found] ` <A03920DE5BAE4309BAFC1B6471AE928C-Zpru7NauK7drdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 18:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091022182221.GZ14520-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 18:31 ` Sean Hefty
[not found] ` <60293EE44E7243B59C41498F20D558A0-Zpru7NauK7drdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 18:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-25 11:52 ` Or Gerlitz [this message]
[not found] ` <4AE43BED.3090405-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-25 20:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091025200332.GN26003-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-27 13:01 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <4AE6EF44.5040004-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-27 17:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091027171403.GP26003-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-28 14:33 ` Or Gerlitz
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-10-13 22:09 David J. Wilder
[not found] ` <1255471781.14513.7.camel-XfwDJb4SXxnMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-13 23:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091013231234.GK5191-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14 16:23 ` David J. Wilder
[not found] ` <1255537437.14513.28.camel-XfwDJb4SXxnMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14 17:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091014170155.GL5191-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14 17:30 ` David J. Wilder
[not found] ` <1255541405.5111.14.camel-XfwDJb4SXxnMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14 17:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091014174017.GM5191-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-15 19:27 ` David J. Wilder
[not found] ` <1255634841.5111.40.camel-XfwDJb4SXxnMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-15 21:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091015213205.GV5191-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-16 18:54 ` David J. Wilder
[not found] ` <1255719280.14675.30.camel-XfwDJb4SXxnMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-16 19:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-14 19:33 ` David J. Wilder
[not found] ` <1255548798.5111.24.camel-XfwDJb4SXxnMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14 20:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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