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From: Vladimir Zidar <mr_w@mindnever.org>
To: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: hypervisor memory usage
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:07:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE97774.5020104@mindnever.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AE8518B.2090101@mindnever.org>

I have nailed the problem down to RHEL version of 
compute_dom0_nr_pages() function.

Vanilla xen uses something like this to reserve up to 128MB of ram for 
DMA etc. The same alg. is used in rhel <= 5.2 and also in official xen 3.4.1

    if ( dom0_nrpages == 0 )
    {
        dom0_nrpages = avail;
        dom0_nrpages = min(dom0_nrpages / 16, 128L << (20 - PAGE_SHIFT));
        dom0_nrpages = -dom0_nrpages;
    }

However, RHEL >= 5.3 uses this:

    /*
     * If domain 0 allocation isn't specified, reserve 1/16th of available
     * memory for things like DMA buffers. This reservation is clamped to
     * a maximum of 384MB.
     */
    if ( dom0_nrpages == 0 )
    {
        dom0_nrpages = avail;
        dom0_nrpages = min(dom0_nrpages / 8, 384L << (20 - PAGE_SHIFT));
        dom0_nrpages = -dom0_nrpages;
    } else {
        /* User specified a dom0_size.  Do not clamp the maximum. */
        dom0_max_nrpages = LONG_MAX;
    }

I do understand that they like the idea of reserving more ram, but 
additionally /8 would make 1/8th of memory instead of 1/16th?

So this might be intended behavior, just not advertised anywhere, and as 
a kind of side effect, specifying dom0_mem would altogether skip this 
funny allocation scheme - at least in theory [ I've just put 
dom0_mem=64G (but I have 8G only) ] and it is not coming up, and I will 
not be able to t see the console for at least next couple of hours.


Vladimir Zidar wrote:
> Chris,
>
> good that you pointed to 5.2 vs 5.3 vs 5.4,
> the difference in number of pages is noticed between these:
>
>       xen.gz-2.6.18-92.1.22.el5  - last 5.2 update - all pages are ok,
>       xen.gz-2.6.18-128.el5 - first 5.3 release - ~80000 pages missing 
> on 8GB ram setup.
>
> Chris Lalancette wrote:
>> Vladimir Zidar wrote:
>>  
>>> Sounds possible. However it would be great if there was switch to 
>>> disable that feature in case hardware is not capable of VT-d, as I'd 
>>> rather use those 300mb than have software support for something that 
>>> I can't actually use.
>>>     
>>
>> In point of fact, VT-d is disabled by default; you need to explicitly 
>> enable it
>> for it to use memory.  However, it's possible that there's a bug, or 
>> some other
>> change caused the memory difference, so it's worthwhile to try and 
>> track it down
>> a little better.  In particular, you jumped from the 5.2 kernel to 
>> the 5.4, so
>> it would be worthwhile to try the 5.3 kernel and see what you get.
>>
>>   
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-29 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-28  9:29 hypervisor memory usage Vladimir Zidar
2009-10-28  9:45 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2009-10-28  9:53   ` Vladimir Zidar
2009-10-28 10:40     ` Keir Fraser
2009-10-28 11:19       ` Vladimir Zidar
2009-10-28 11:58         ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2009-10-28 12:02           ` Vladimir Zidar
2009-10-28 13:12             ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2009-10-28 13:18             ` Chris Lalancette
2009-10-28 14:13               ` Vladimir Zidar
2009-10-29 11:07                 ` Vladimir Zidar [this message]
2009-10-29 11:19                   ` Vladimir Zidar
2009-10-29 12:05                     ` Keir Fraser

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