From: "Vedran Furač" <vedran.furac@gmail.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
minchan.kim@gmail.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Memory overcommit
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:11:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE97861.1070902@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910290136000.11476@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
David Rientjes wrote:
> Right, because in Vedran's latest oom log it shows that Xorg is preferred
> more than any other thread other than the memory hogging test program with
> your patch than without. I pointed out a clear distinction in the killing
> order using both total_vm and rss in that log and in my opinion killing
> Xorg as opposed to krunner would be undesireable.
But then you should rename OOM killer to TRIPK:
Totally Random Innocent Process Killer
If you have OOM situation and Xorg is the first, that means it's leaking
memory badly and the system is probably already frozen/FUBAR. Killing
krunner in that situation wouldn't do any good. From a user perspective,
nothing changes, system is still FUBAR and (s)he would probably reboot
cursing linux in the process.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Vedran Furač" <vedran.furac@gmail.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
minchan.kim@gmail.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Memory overcommit
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:11:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE97861.1070902@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910290136000.11476@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
David Rientjes wrote:
> Right, because in Vedran's latest oom log it shows that Xorg is preferred
> more than any other thread other than the memory hogging test program with
> your patch than without. I pointed out a clear distinction in the killing
> order using both total_vm and rss in that log and in my opinion killing
> Xorg as opposed to krunner would be undesireable.
But then you should rename OOM killer to TRIPK:
Totally Random Innocent Process Killer
If you have OOM situation and Xorg is the first, that means it's leaking
memory badly and the system is probably already frozen/FUBAR. Killing
krunner in that situation wouldn't do any good. From a user perspective,
nothing changes, system is still FUBAR and (s)he would probably reboot
cursing linux in the process.
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Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-12 11:51 Memory overcommit Vedran Furač
2009-10-13 3:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-13 17:13 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-14 4:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-20 21:52 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-26 1:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-26 16:16 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-26 16:16 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 3:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 3:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 6:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27 6:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27 6:34 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 6:34 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 6:36 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 6:36 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 6:55 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 6:55 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 7:45 ` [RFC][PATCH] oom_kill: avoid depends on total_vm and use real RSS/swap value for oom_score (Re: " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 7:45 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 7:56 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 7:56 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 12:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-27 12:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-28 0:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 0:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 0:45 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 0:45 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 7:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 7:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 8:14 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 8:14 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 8:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 8:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 8:52 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 8:52 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 8:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 8:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 17:41 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 17:41 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 0:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 0:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 18:39 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-27 18:39 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-27 18:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-27 18:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-28 0:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 0:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-05 19:02 ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-05 19:02 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-28 0:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 0:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 6:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27 6:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27 6:56 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 6:56 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 17:12 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 17:12 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 18:02 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27 18:30 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 18:30 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 20:44 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-27 20:44 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-27 21:04 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-27 21:04 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 0:08 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 0:08 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 0:25 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 0:25 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 0:39 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 0:39 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 4:08 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 4:08 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 4:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 4:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 5:13 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 5:13 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 6:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 6:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 6:17 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 6:17 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 6:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 6:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 8:38 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 8:38 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 11:11 ` Vedran Furač [this message]
2009-10-29 11:11 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29 19:53 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 19:53 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 23:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 23:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-30 9:10 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-30 9:10 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-30 9:36 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-30 9:36 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-30 10:49 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-11-03 20:49 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-03 20:49 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04 0:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-04 0:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-04 1:58 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04 1:58 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04 2:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-04 2:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-04 3:10 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04 3:10 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04 3:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-04 3:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-30 13:59 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 13:59 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 19:24 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-30 19:24 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-02 19:58 ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-02 19:58 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 13:28 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 13:28 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 20:10 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 20:10 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 3:05 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29 3:05 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29 8:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 8:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 11:01 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29 11:01 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29 19:42 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 19:42 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-30 13:53 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 13:53 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 14:08 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-10-30 14:08 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-10-30 15:13 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 15:13 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 14:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-30 14:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-30 14:41 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 14:41 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 15:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-30 15:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-30 16:24 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-30 16:24 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-02 19:56 ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-02 19:56 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 19:44 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-30 19:44 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-02 19:56 ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-02 19:56 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 0:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 0:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 2:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-28 2:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-28 3:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 3:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 4:12 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 4:12 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 8:10 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-28 8:10 ` Hugh Dickins
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
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2005-12-11 2:00 ` Kip Macy
2005-12-11 15:45 ` Keir Fraser
2005-12-11 19:59 ` Rik van Riel
2005-12-13 16:10 ` Keir Fraser
2005-12-13 16:25 ` Jacob Gorm Hansen
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