From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" Subject: Will pv-ops dom0-patched kernel be eventually merged into Linus Torvalds' mainline Linux kernel tree? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:29:00 +0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1663056645==" Return-path: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, xen-users@lists.xensource.com Cc: space.time.universe@gmail.com List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org --===============1663056645== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6c3606487ba0477fd96e2 --001485f6c3606487ba0477fd96e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After reading the following articles, it doesn't sound very hopeful for Xen= . [1] Xen vs. KVM: Verdict still out on dueling hypervisors http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci13686= 64,00.html [2] Xen vs. KVM Linux virtualization hypervisors http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid94_gci= 1371226,00.html [3] Xen vs. KVM: The Linux Foundation=92s Small-Minded View of Virtualizati= on http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/archive/2009/04/17/xen-vs-kvm-the-li= nux-foundation-s-small-minded-view-of-virtualization.aspx What are your views? I certainly hope that pvops dom0 patches would be merged into the mainline Linux kernel. --=20 Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering) Alma Maters: (1) Singapore Polytechnic (2) National University of Singapore My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo Email: space.time.universe@gmail.com Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618 Street: Bedok Reservoir Road Country: Singapore --001485f6c3606487ba0477fd96e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After reading the following articles, it doesn't sound very hopeful for= Xen.

[1] Xen vs. KVM: Verdict still out on dueling hypervisors
<= a href=3D"http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid8= 0_gci1368664,00.html">http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0= ,289142,sid80_gci1368664,00.html

[2] Xen vs. KVM Linux virtualization hypervisors
http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,= sid94_gci1371226,00.html

[3] Xen vs. KVM: The Linux Foundation=92s Small-Minded View of Virtuali= zation
http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/archive/2009/04/17/xen-vs-kvm-t= he-linux-foundation-s-small-minded-view-of-virtualization.aspx

What are your views? I certainly hope that pvops dom0 patches would be = merged into the mainline Linux kernel.

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--001485f6c3606487ba0477fd96e2-- --===============1663056645== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users --===============1663056645==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" Subject: Re: Will pv-ops dom0-patched kernel be eventually merged into Linus Torvalds' mainline Linux kernel tree? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:27:05 +0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1826978741==" Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, xen-users@lists.xensource.com Cc: space.time.universe@gmail.com List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org --===============1826978741== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367f94da241c4a0477fe66a6 --0016367f94da241c4a0477fe66a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One of the reasons why I prefer Xen over KVM is because of networking. I have a Gigabit network card on my Intel DQ45CB motherboard. I don't see a need to install an additional network card on my motherboard as PCI and PCI= e expansion slots are limited. In the case of Xen, the physical network interface in my host operating system (dom0) and the virtual network interfaces in my guest operating systems (domU) can be added to the same ethernet bridge on the host OS. Thi= s implies that my host and virtual machines will have IP addresses in the sam= e subnet. Moreover, if I do not want to configure static IP addresses, my virtual machines (VMs) can obtain IP adddresses from the DHCP server on commercial routers like Linksys, D-Link, Netgear, etc, similar to the way the physical network card on the host obtaining its IP address from the sam= e router. But, for the case of KVM, I need to setup an internal network for my guests= . This implies that my guests will use a different subnet from the host. In order for my guests to have internet connectivity, I need to create an ethernet bridge on the host OS and configure it as the default gateway/router for my guests. Then I need to setup source network address translation (SNAT) for the virtual network interfaces in my guests. The virtual network interfaces in my virtual machines cannot obtain IP addresse= s from my Linksys, D-Link, Netgear routers. If I want to run services like HTTP servers on my guests, I need to setup destination network address translation (DNAT) *twice*, first from my commercial router to my host OS, but my host is also a router for the internal network of my virtual machines, hence I have to port forward a second time from my host OS to my guest machines. Fortunately, in the case of Xen, I would only have to setup DNAT once, from the commercial router to my virtual machine. For the purpose of my argument for Xen vs KVM networking, please refer to the following article: Qemu (kvm) internal network setup= Link: http://blog.cynapses.org/2007/07/12/qemu-kvm-internal-network-setup/ --=20 Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering) Alma Maters: (1) Singapore Polytechnic (2) National University of Singapore My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo Email: space.time.universe@gmail.com Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618 Street: Bedok Reservoir Road Country: Singapore On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) < space.time.universe@gmail.com> wrote: > After reading the following articles, it doesn't sound very hopeful for > Xen. > > [1] Xen vs. KVM: Verdict still out on dueling hypervisors > > http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci136= 8664,00.html > > [2] Xen vs. KVM Linux virtualization hypervisors > > http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid94_g= ci1371226,00.html > > [3] Xen vs. KVM: The Linux Foundation=92s Small-Minded View of Virtualiza= tion > > http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/archive/2009/04/17/xen-vs-kvm-the-= linux-foundation-s-small-minded-view-of-virtualization.aspx > > What are your views? I certainly hope that pvops dom0 patches would be > merged into the mainline Linux kernel. > > -- > Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical > Engineering) > Alma Maters: > (1) Singapore Polytechnic > (2) National University of Singapore > My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com > My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com > My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo > Email: space.time.universe@gmail.com > Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618 > Street: Bedok Reservoir Road > Country: Singapore > --0016367f94da241c4a0477fe66a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One of the reasons why I prefer Xen over KVM is because of networking.
<= br>I have a Gigabit network card on my Intel DQ45CB motherboard. I don'= t see a need to install an additional network card on my motherboard as PCI= and PCIe expansion slots are limited.

In the case of Xen, the physical network interface in my host operating= system (dom0) and the virtual network interfaces in my guest operating sys= tems (domU) can be added to the same ethernet bridge on the host OS. This i= mplies that my host and virtual machines will have IP addresses in the same= subnet. Moreover, if I do not want to configure static IP addresses, my vi= rtual machines (VMs) can obtain IP adddresses from the DHCP server on comme= rcial routers like Linksys, D-Link, Netgear, etc, similar to the way the ph= ysical network card on the host obtaining its IP address from the same rout= er.

But, for the case of KVM, I need to setup an internal network for my gu= ests. This implies that my guests will use a different subnet from the host= . In order for my guests to have internet connectivity, I need to create an= ethernet bridge on the host OS and configure it as the default gateway/rou= ter for my guests. Then I need to setup source network address translation = (SNAT) for the virtual network interfaces in my guests. The virtual network= interfaces in my virtual machines cannot obtain IP addresses from my Links= ys, D-Link, Netgear routers. If I want to run services like HTTP servers on= my guests, I need to setup destination network address translation (DNAT) = *twice*, first from my commercial router to my host OS, but my host is also= a router for the internal network of my virtual machines, hence I have to = port forward a second time from my host OS to my guest machines.

Fortunately, in the case of Xen, I would only have to setup DNAT once, = from the commercial router to my virtual machine.

For the purpose of= my argument for Xen vs KVM networking, please refer to the following artic= le:

Qemu (kvm) internal network setup

Li= nk: http://blog.cynapses.org/2007/07/12/qemu-kvm-internal-network-set= up/

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Alma Maters:
(1) Singapore Polytechnic
(2) Nat= ional University of Singapore
My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blo= gspot.com
My Secondary Blog: http://enming= teo.wordpress.com
My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo
Email: space.time.universe@gmail.com<= /a>
Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618
Street: Bedok Reservoir Ro= ad
Country: Singapore

On Tue, Nov 10, = 2009 at 1:29 PM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) <space.time.universe@gmail.com> wrote:
After reading the= following articles, it doesn't sound very hopeful for Xen.

[1] = Xen vs. KVM: Verdict still out on dueling hypervisors
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget= .com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1368664,00.html

[2] Xen vs. KVM Linux virtualization hypervisors
http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com= /generic/0,295582,sid94_gci1371226,00.html

[3] Xen vs. KVM: The Linux Foundation=92s Small-Minded View of Virtuali= zation
http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/archive/2009/= 04/17/xen-vs-kvm-the-linux-foundation-s-small-minded-view-of-virtualization= .aspx

What are your views? I certainly hope that pvops dom0 patches would be = merged into the mainline Linux kernel.

--
Mr. Teo = En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering)=
Alma Maters:
(1) Singapore Polytechnic
(2) National University of Sin= gapore
My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot= .com
My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com
My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo
Email: space.time.universe= @gmail.com
Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618
Street: Bedok Reservoir Road
Country: Singapore




--0016367f94da241c4a0477fe66a6-- --===============1826978741== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel --===============1826978741==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Itamar Reis Peixoto Subject: Re: Re: Will pv-ops dom0-patched kernel be eventually merged into Linus Torvalds' mainline Linux kernel tree? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:35:56 -0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, xen-users@lists.xensource.com List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org you can setup kvm networking as bridge like xen. will work both in the same way. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > One of the reasons why I prefer Xen over KVM is because of networking. > > I have a Gigabit network card on my Intel DQ45CB motherboard. I don't see= a > need to install an additional network card on my motherboard as PCI and P= CIe > expansion slots are limited. > > In the case of Xen, the physical network interface in my host operating > system (dom0) and the virtual network interfaces in my guest operating > systems (domU) can be added to the same ethernet bridge on the host OS. T= his > implies that my host and virtual machines will have IP addresses in the s= ame > subnet. Moreover, if I do not want to configure static IP addresses, my > virtual machines (VMs) can obtain IP adddresses from the DHCP server on > commercial routers like Linksys, D-Link, Netgear, etc, similar to the way > the physical network card on the host obtaining its IP address from the s= ame > router. > > But, for the case of KVM, I need to setup an internal network for my gues= ts. > This implies that my guests will use a different subnet from the host. In > order for my guests to have internet connectivity, I need to create an > ethernet bridge on the host OS and configure it as the default > gateway/router for my guests. Then I need to setup source network address > translation (SNAT) for the virtual network interfaces in my guests. The > virtual network interfaces in my virtual machines cannot obtain IP addres= ses > from my Linksys, D-Link, Netgear routers. If I want to run services like > HTTP servers on my guests, I need to setup destination network address > translation (DNAT) *twice*, first from my commercial router to my host OS= , > but my host is also a router for the internal network of my virtual > machines, hence I have to port forward a second time from my host OS to m= y > guest machines. > > Fortunately, in the case of Xen, I would only have to setup DNAT once, fr= om > the commercial router to my virtual machine. > > For the purpose of my argument for Xen vs KVM networking, please refer to > the following article: > > Qemu (kvm) internal network setup > > Link: http://blog.cynapses.org/2007/07/12/qemu-kvm-internal-network-setup= / > > -- > Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical > Engineering) > Alma Maters: > (1) Singapore Polytechnic > (2) National University of Singapore > My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com > My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com > My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo > Email: space.time.universe@gmail.com > Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618 > Street: Bedok Reservoir Road > Country: Singapore > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > wrote: >> >> After reading the following articles, it doesn't sound very hopeful for >> Xen. >> >> [1] Xen vs. KVM: Verdict still out on dueling hypervisors >> >> http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci13= 68664,00.html >> >> [2] Xen vs. KVM Linux virtualization hypervisors >> >> http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid94_= gci1371226,00.html >> >> [3] Xen vs. KVM: The Linux Foundation=92s Small-Minded View of >> Virtualization >> >> http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/archive/2009/04/17/xen-vs-kvm-the= -linux-foundation-s-small-minded-view-of-virtualization.aspx >> >> What are your views? I certainly hope that pvops dom0 patches would be >> merged into the mainline Linux kernel. >> >> -- >> Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical >> Engineering) >> Alma Maters: >> (1) Singapore Polytechnic >> (2) National University of Singapore >> My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com >> My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com >> My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo >> Email: space.time.universe@gmail.com >> Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618 >> Street: Bedok Reservoir Road >> Country: Singapore > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > --=20 ------------ Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn/google talk/sip: itamar@ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Freddie Cash Subject: Re: Re: Will pv-ops dom0-patched kernel be eventually merged into Linus Torvalds' mainline Linux kernel tree? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:36:37 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, xen-users@lists.xensource.com List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > One of the reasons why I prefer Xen over KVM is because of networking. > > I have a Gigabit network card on my Intel DQ45CB motherboard. I don't see a > need to install an additional network card on my motherboard as PCI and PCIe > expansion slots are limited. > > In the case of Xen, the physical network interface in my host operating > system (dom0) and the virtual network interfaces in my guest operating > systems (domU) can be added to the same ethernet bridge on the host OS. This > implies that my host and virtual machines will have IP addresses in the same > subnet. Moreover, if I do not want to configure static IP addresses, my > virtual machines (VMs) can obtain IP adddresses from the DHCP server on > commercial routers like Linksys, D-Link, Netgear, etc, similar to the way > the physical network card on the host obtaining its IP address from the same > router. > > But, for the case of KVM, I need to setup an internal network for my guests. Bzzzt! Incorrect. KVM supports the exact same networking methods as Xen. In fact, it's a lot simpler to setup bridged networking in KVM then in Xen, as KVM uses the default network configuration scripts of the host OS. In Debian, it's as simple as editing /etc/network/interfaces, creating the bridge configuration in there, and then pointing /etc/kvm/kvm-ifup to use that bridge. Xen 3.0 used to be this simple, and the bridge device was separate from the physical interface. Then in Xen 3.2 everything changed, and it became a royal pain to configure as the physical interface was renamed, and the first interface with an IP was used as the bridge device, completely breaking setups where you have a management interface with an IP, and separate interfaces for the bridge(s). (Yes, I know it's possible to work around this, but it broke existing setups, and changed things for no good reason.) -- Freddie Cash fjwcash@gmail.com From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Will pv-ops dom0-patched kernel be eventually merged into Linus Torvalds' mainline Linux kernel tree? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:41:27 +0200 Message-ID: <20091110154127.GV16033@reaktio.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, xen-users@lists.xensource.com List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:29:00PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > After reading the following articles, it doesn't sound very hopeful for > Xen. > > [1] Xen vs. KVM: Verdict still out on dueling hypervisors > [1]http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1368664,00.html > > [2] Xen vs. KVM Linux virtualization hypervisors > [2]http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid94_gci1371226,00.html > > [3] Xen vs. KVM: The Linux Foundation*s Small-Minded View of > Virtualization > [3]http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/archive/2009/04/17/xen-vs-kvm-the-linux-foundation-s-small-minded-view-of-virtualization.aspx > > What are your views? I certainly hope that pvops dom0 patches would be > merged into the mainline Linux kernel. > Jeremy will have a speech about pv_ops dom0 status at the XenSummit Asia 2009 this month. I guess then we'll know more about the plans :) http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2009/11/04/xen-summit-asia-2009-event-information-released/ -- Pasi From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" Subject: Re: Will pv-ops dom0-patched kernel be eventually merged into Linus Torvalds' mainline Linux kernel tree? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:58:16 +0800 Message-ID: References: <20091110154127.GV16033@reaktio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0951769525==" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20091110154127.GV16033@reaktio.net> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen?= Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, space.time.universe@gmail.com, xen-users@lists.xensource.com List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org --===============0951769525== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636426c87db5dc804780660ea --001636426c87db5dc804780660ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope there will be a live telecast from Xen Summit Asia 2009 in Shanghai, China so that we can all tune in. --=20 Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering) Alma Maters: (1) Singapore Polytechnic (2) National University of Singapore My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo Email: space.time.universe@gmail.com Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618 Street: Bedok Reservoir Road Country: Singapore On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:29:00PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > wrote: > > After reading the following articles, it doesn't sound very hopeful > for > > Xen. > > > > [1] Xen vs. KVM: Verdict still out on dueling hypervisors > > [1] > http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci136= 8664,00.html > > > > [2] Xen vs. KVM Linux virtualization hypervisors > > [2] > http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid94_g= ci1371226,00.html > > > > [3] Xen vs. KVM: The Linux Foundation*s Small-Minded View of > > Virtualization > > [3] > http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/archive/2009/04/17/xen-vs-kvm-the-= linux-foundation-s-small-minded-view-of-virtualization.aspx > > > > What are your views? I certainly hope that pvops dom0 patches would = be > > merged into the mainline Linux kernel. > > > > Jeremy will have a speech about pv_ops dom0 status at the XenSummit Asia > 2009 this month. > > I guess then we'll know more about the plans :) > > > http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2009/11/04/xen-summit-asia-2009-event-infor= mation-released/ > > -- Pasi > > --001636426c87db5dc804780660ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope there will be a live telecast from Xen Summit Asia 2009 in Shanghai,= China so that we can all tune in.

--
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enm= ing) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering)
Alma Maters: (1) Singapore Polytechnic
(2) National University of Singapore
My Pri= mary Blog: htt= p://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com
My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com<= br> My Youtube videos: http:/= /www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo
Email: space.time.universe@gmail.com
Mobile Phone (Star= hub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618
Street: Bedok Reservoir Road
Country: Singapore

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen <pasik@iki.fi> wr= ote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:29:00PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) w= rote:
> =A0 =A0After reading the following articles, it doesn't sound very= hopeful for
> =A0 =A0Xen.
>
> =A0 =A0[1] Xen vs. KVM: Verdict still out on dueling hypervisors
> =A0 =A0[1]http://search= datacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1368664,00.html
>
> =A0 =A0[2] Xen vs. KVM Linux virtualization hypervisors
> =A0 =A0[2]http://s= earchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid94_gci1371226,= 00.html
>
> =A0 =A0[3] Xen vs. KVM: The Linux Foundation*s Small-Minded View of > =A0 =A0Virtualization
> =A0 =A0[3]http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/ar= chive/2009/04/17/xen-vs-kvm-the-linux-foundation-s-small-minded-view-of-vir= tualization.aspx
>
> =A0 =A0What are your views? I certainly hope that pvops dom0 patches w= ould be
> =A0 =A0merged into the mainline Linux kernel.
>

Jeremy will have a speech about pv_ops dom0 status at the XenSummit A= sia
2009 this month.

I guess then we'll know more about the plans :)

http://blog.xen.org/index.php/= 2009/11/04/xen-summit-asia-2009-event-information-released/

-- Pasi





--001636426c87db5dc804780660ea-- --===============0951769525== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel --===============0951769525==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= Subject: Video/Audio stream from XenSummit Asia 2009 ? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:02:52 +0200 Message-ID: <20091110160252.GY16033@reaktio.net> References: <20091110154127.GV16033@reaktio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, xen-users@lists.xensource.com, Stephen Spector List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:58:16PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) = wrote: > I hope there will be a live telecast from Xen Summit Asia 2009 in > Shanghai, China so that we can all tune in. >=20 Maybe Stephen Spector can comment about that.. would be really nice to ha= ve some video (or at least audio) stream! -- Pasi > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen <[5]pasik@iki.= fi> wrote: >=20 > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:29:00PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang E= nming) > wrote: > > After reading the following articles, it doesn't sound very h= opeful > for > > Xen. > > > > [1] Xen vs. KVM: Verdict still out on dueling hypervisors > > > [1][6]http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,28914= 2,sid80_gci1368664,00.html > > > > [2] Xen vs. KVM Linux virtualization hypervisors > > > [2][7]http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,= 295582,sid94_gci1371226,00.html > > > > [3] Xen vs. KVM: The Linux Foundation*s Small-Minded View of > > Virtualization > > > [3][8]http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/archive/2009/04/17/x= en-vs-kvm-the-linux-foundation-s-small-minded-view-of-virtualization.aspx > > > > What are your views? I certainly hope that pvops dom0 patches= would > be > > merged into the mainline Linux kernel. > > >=20 > Jeremy will have a speech about pv_ops dom0 status at the XenSummi= t Asia > 2009 this month. >=20 > I guess then we'll know more about the plans :) >=20 > [9]http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2009/11/04/xen-summit-asia-2009-e= vent-information-released/ > -- Pasi >=20 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" Subject: Re: Video/Audio stream from XenSummit Asia 2009 ? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:08:33 +0800 Message-ID: References: <20091110154127.GV16033@reaktio.net> <20091110160252.GY16033@reaktio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1017603604==" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20091110160252.GY16033@reaktio.net> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen?= Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, space.time.universe@gmail.com, xen-users@lists.xensource.com, Stephen Spector List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org --===============1017603604== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367f956ca23e9e04780685d9 --0016367f956ca23e9e04780685d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And maybe video conferencing as well so that remote audience not physically at the Summit can ask questions too :-) --=20 Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering) Alma Maters: (1) Singapore Polytechnic (2) National University of Singapore My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo Email: space.time.universe@gmail.com Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618 Street: Bedok Reservoir Road Country: Singapore On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:58:16PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > wrote: > > I hope there will be a live telecast from Xen Summit Asia 2009 in > > Shanghai, China so that we can all tune in. > > > > Maybe Stephen Spector can comment about that.. would be really nice to ha= ve > some > video (or at least audio) stream! > > -- Pasi > > > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen <[5]pasik@iki.= fi> > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:29:00PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang > Enming) > > wrote: > > > After reading the following articles, it doesn't sound very > hopeful > > for > > > Xen. > > > > > > [1] Xen vs. KVM: Verdict still out on dueling hypervisors > > > > > [1][6] > http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci136= 8664,00.html > > > > > > [2] Xen vs. KVM Linux virtualization hypervisors > > > > > [2][7] > http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid94_g= ci1371226,00.html > > > > > > [3] Xen vs. KVM: The Linux Foundation*s Small-Minded View of > > > Virtualization > > > > > [3][8] > http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/archive/2009/04/17/xen-vs-kvm-the-= linux-foundation-s-small-minded-view-of-virtualization.aspx > > > > > > What are your views? I certainly hope that pvops dom0 patches > would > > be > > > merged into the mainline Linux kernel. > > > > > > > Jeremy will have a speech about pv_ops dom0 status at the XenSummi= t > Asia > > 2009 this month. > > > > I guess then we'll know more about the plans :) > > > > [9] > http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2009/11/04/xen-summit-asia-2009-event-infor= mation-released/ > > -- Pasi > > > > --0016367f956ca23e9e04780685d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And maybe video conferencing as well so that remote audience not physically= at the Summit can ask questions too :-)

--
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zha= ng Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering)
Alma Mat= ers:
(1) Singapore Polytechnic
(2) National University of Singapore
My Pri= mary Blog: htt= p://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com
My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com<= br> My Youtube videos: http:/= /www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo
Email: space.time.universe@gmail.com
Mobile Phone (Star= hub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618
Street: Bedok Reservoir Road
Country: Singapore

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen <pasik@iki.fi> wr= ote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2= 009 at 11:58:16PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
> =A0 =A0I hope there will be a live telecast from Xen Summit Asia 2009 = in
> =A0 =A0Shanghai, China so that we can all tune in.
>

Maybe Stephen Spector can comment about that.. would be really nice to have= some
video (or at least audio) stream!

-- Pasi

>
> =A0 =A0On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen <[5]pasik@iki.fi> wrote:
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:29:00PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (= Zhang Enming)
> =A0 =A0 =A0wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0> =A0 =A0After reading the following articles, it doesn&= #39;t sound very hopeful
> =A0 =A0 =A0for
> =A0 =A0 =A0> =A0 =A0Xen.
> =A0 =A0 =A0>
> =A0 =A0 =A0> =A0 =A0[1] Xen vs. KVM: Verdict still out on dueling h= ypervisors
> =A0 =A0 =A0>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 [1][6]http://sear= chdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1368664,00.html<= /a>
> =A0 =A0 =A0>
> =A0 =A0 =A0> =A0 =A0[2] Xen vs. KVM Linux virtualization hypervisor= s
> =A0 =A0 =A0>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 [2][7]http:/= /searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid94_gci137122= 6,00.html
> =A0 =A0 =A0>
> =A0 =A0 =A0> =A0 =A0[3] Xen vs. KVM: The Linux Foundation*s Small-M= inded View of
> =A0 =A0 =A0> =A0 =A0Virtualization
> =A0 =A0 =A0>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 [3][8]http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/= archive/2009/04/17/xen-vs-kvm-the-linux-foundation-s-small-minded-view-of-v= irtualization.aspx
> =A0 =A0 =A0>
> =A0 =A0 =A0> =A0 =A0What are your views? I certainly hope that pvop= s dom0 patches would
> =A0 =A0 =A0be
> =A0 =A0 =A0> =A0 =A0merged into the mainline Linux kernel.
> =A0 =A0 =A0>
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0Jeremy will have a speech about pv_ops dom0 status at the X= enSummit Asia
> =A0 =A0 =A02009 this month.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0I guess then we'll know more about the plans :)
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0[9]http://blog= .xen.org/index.php/2009/11/04/xen-summit-asia-2009-event-information-releas= ed/
> =A0 =A0 =A0-- Pasi
>





--0016367f956ca23e9e04780685d9-- --===============1017603604== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel --===============1017603604==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Boris Quiroz Subject: Re: Video/Audio stream from XenSummit Asia 2009 ? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:13:10 -0300 Message-ID: <4AF99116.1000802@acepta.com> References: <20091110154127.GV16033@reaktio.net> <20091110160252.GY16033@reaktio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20091110160252.GY16033@reaktio.net> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen?= Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" , xen-users@lists.xensource.com, Stephen Spector List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:58:16PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming= ) wrote: >> I hope there will be a live telecast from Xen Summit Asia 2009 in >> Shanghai, China so that we can all tune in. >> >=20 > Maybe Stephen Spector can comment about that.. would be really nice to = have some > video (or at least audio) stream! >=20 I talked with Stephen few days ago, and looks he's trying to setup some kind of ustream.tv service but he has to check with people at Intel facility about the internet connection and everything else. > -- Pasi >=20 >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Pasi K=E4rkk=E4inen <[5]pasik@iki= .fi> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:29:00PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang = Enming) >> wrote: >> > After reading the following articles, it doesn't sound very = hopeful >> for >> > Xen. >> > >> > [1] Xen vs. KVM: Verdict still out on dueling hypervisors >> > >> [1][6]http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,2891= 42,sid80_gci1368664,00.html >> > >> > [2] Xen vs. KVM Linux virtualization hypervisors >> > >> [2][7]http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0= ,295582,sid94_gci1371226,00.html >> > >> > [3] Xen vs. KVM: The Linux Foundation*s Small-Minded View of >> > Virtualization >> > >> [3][8]http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/archive/2009/04/17/= xen-vs-kvm-the-linux-foundation-s-small-minded-view-of-virtualization.asp= x >> > >> > What are your views? I certainly hope that pvops dom0 patche= s would >> be >> > merged into the mainline Linux kernel. >> > >> >> Jeremy will have a speech about pv_ops dom0 status at the XenSumm= it Asia >> 2009 this month. >> >> I guess then we'll know more about the plans :) >> >> [9]http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2009/11/04/xen-summit-asia-2009-= event-information-released/ >> -- Pasi >> >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >=20 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkr5kRYACgkQGNJOcRr8JkL+ugCeOqR+31Lr4SLzMesFImW/jOJ7 K/oAniFa65gnqAw1AqUDaVwFWlcn152L =3D7ggy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Stephen Spector Subject: RE: Video/Audio stream from XenSummit Asia 2009 ? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:12:00 -0500 Message-ID: <652FFB2C8F91E3428799B1FFF8B490C972490AF254@FTLPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: <20091110154127.GV16033@reaktio.net> <20091110160252.GY16033@reaktio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20091110160252.GY16033@reaktio.net> Content-Language: en-US List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=27Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen=27?= , "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org >> I hope there will be a live telecast from Xen Summit Asia 2009 in >> Shanghai, China so that we can all tune in. >>=20 > Maybe Stephen Spector can comment about that.. would be really nice to ha= ve some > video (or at least audio) stream! I have been unable to get my Linux machine accept my Video/Audio Camera and= am looking for alternatives. Also, I have a list of requirements that will= need to be available (e.g. ports) from Intel in China.=20 We are going to tape the entire event and post a few days afterwards but I = am trying to get a live stream.=20 Thanks. Stephen Spector =20 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] RE: Video/Audio stream from XenSummit Asia 2009 ? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:40:57 +0800 Message-ID: References: <20091110154127.GV16033@reaktio.net> <20091110160252.GY16033@reaktio.net> <652FFB2C8F91E3428799B1FFF8B490C972490AF254@FTLPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0834344499==" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <652FFB2C8F91E3428799B1FFF8B490C972490AF254@FTLPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: Stephen Spector Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , space.time.universe@gmail.com, "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org --===============0834344499== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502eacde3c9b3047806f9f0 --00504502eacde3c9b3047806f9f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What is the brand/model and interface of your digital video camera? -- Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering) Alma Maters: (1) Singapore Polytechnic (2) National University of Singapore My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com My Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com My Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo Email: space.time.universe@gmail.com Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618 Street: Bedok Reservoir Road Country: Singapore On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Stephen Spector < stephen.spector@citrix.com> wrote: > > >> I hope there will be a live telecast from Xen Summit Asia 2009 in > >> Shanghai, China so that we can all tune in. > >> > > > Maybe Stephen Spector can comment about that.. would be really nice to > have some > > video (or at least audio) stream! > > I have been unable to get my Linux machine accept my Video/Audio Camera and > am looking for alternatives. Also, I have a list of requirements that will > need to be available (e.g. ports) from Intel in China. > > We are going to tape the entire event and post a few days afterwards but I > am trying to get a live stream. > > Thanks. > > Stephen Spector > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel > --00504502eacde3c9b3047806f9f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What is the brand/model and interface of your digital video camera?

= --
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanic= al Engineering)
Alma Maters:
(1) Singapore Polytechnic
(2) Nationa= l University of Singapore
My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com
My Secondary Blo= g: http://enmingteo.wordpress.co= m
My Youtube videos: http:/= /www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo
Email: space.time.universe@gmail.com
Mobile Phone (Star= hub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618
Street: Bedok Reservoir Road
Country: Singapore

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Stephen Spector <stephen.spector@citrix= .com> wrote:

>> =A0 =A0I hope there will be a live telecast from Xen Summit Asia 2= 009 in
>> =A0 =A0Shanghai, China so that we can all tune in.
>>

> Maybe Stephen Spector can comment about that.. would be really nice to= have some
> video (or at least audio) stream!

I have been unable to get my Linux machine accept my Video/Audio Came= ra and am looking for alternatives. Also, I have a list of requirements tha= t will need to be available (e.g. ports) from Intel in China.

We are going to tape the entire event and post a few days afterwards but I = am trying to get a live stream.

Thanks.

Stephen Spector



_______________________________________________
Xen-devel mailing list
Xen-devel@lists.xensource.= com
http://l= ists.xensource.com/xen-devel




--00504502eacde3c9b3047806f9f0-- --===============0834344499== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users --===============0834344499==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= Subject: Re: Re: Will pv-ops dom0-patched kernel be eventually merged into Linus Torvalds' mainline Linux kernel tree? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:58:17 +0200 Message-ID: <20091110175817.GE16033@reaktio.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: Freddie Cash Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" , xen-users@lists.xensource.com List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 07:36:37AM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > wrote: > > One of the reasons why I prefer Xen over KVM is because of networking. > > > > I have a Gigabit network card on my Intel DQ45CB motherboard. I don't see a > > need to install an additional network card on my motherboard as PCI and PCIe > > expansion slots are limited. > > > > In the case of Xen, the physical network interface in my host operating > > system (dom0) and the virtual network interfaces in my guest operating > > systems (domU) can be added to the same ethernet bridge on the host OS. This > > implies that my host and virtual machines will have IP addresses in the same > > subnet. Moreover, if I do not want to configure static IP addresses, my > > virtual machines (VMs) can obtain IP adddresses from the DHCP server on > > commercial routers like Linksys, D-Link, Netgear, etc, similar to the way > > the physical network card on the host obtaining its IP address from the same > > router. > > > > But, for the case of KVM, I need to setup an internal network for my guests. > > Bzzzt! Incorrect. KVM supports the exact same networking methods as > Xen. In fact, it's a lot simpler to setup bridged networking in KVM > then in Xen, as KVM uses the default network configuration scripts of > the host OS. > > In Debian, it's as simple as editing /etc/network/interfaces, creating > the bridge configuration in there, and then pointing /etc/kvm/kvm-ifup > to use that bridge. > > Xen 3.0 used to be this simple, and the bridge device was separate > from the physical interface. Then in Xen 3.2 everything changed, and > it became a royal pain to configure as the physical interface was > renamed, and the first interface with an IP was used as the bridge > device, completely breaking setups where you have a management > interface with an IP, and separate interfaces for the bridge(s). > (Yes, I know it's possible to work around this, but it broke existing > setups, and changed things for no good reason.) > With Xen, you can, and have always been able to, use your distro provided network configuration scripts/methods. Just disable the default Xen network-bridge script, and do it yourself. No need to have Xen scripts do the renaming etc. -- Pasi From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Stephen Spector Subject: RE: Video/Audio stream from XenSummit Asia 2009 ? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:20:48 -0500 Message-ID: <652FFB2C8F91E3428799B1FFF8B490C972490AF26D@FTLPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: <20091110154127.GV16033@reaktio.net> <20091110160252.GY16033@reaktio.net> <652FFB2C8F91E3428799B1FFF8B490C972490AF254@FTLPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: In-Reply-To: <652FFB2C8F91E3428799B1FFF8B490C972490AF254@FTLPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> Content-Language: en-US List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=27Pasi_K=E4rkk=E4inen=27?= , "'Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)'" Cc: "'xen-devel@lists.xensource.com'" , "'xen-users@lists.xensource.com'" List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org Everyone, we will not be able to stream live the event from Intel China nex= t week due to Port and Security issues. I will start working soon with AMD = to try and have this issue taken care of right away so we can stream Xen Su= mmit North America in April. Thanks. Stephen Spector =20