Re: [Qemu-devel] virtio-rng

[Ian Molton <ian.molton@collabora.co.uk>]

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Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Ian Molton wrote:
>
> With VMs, in some circumstances it might be preferable to trust the
> host when it says it's providing already-tested entropy.  After all
> the host has total control over the guest anyway, and the host entropy
> has already been run through the same checks.

I dont know. The guests might not necessarily trust the host. I can
certainly see some benefit of not running the checks twice, however, and
this applies to some other hw rng drivers too - One in particular I know
will shut down if it detects that its entropy source(s) have gone bad.

> So I think virtio-rng could benefit form being a special case, if the
> host says "I assert this is entropy", you might inject it directly,
> and thus work even with guests that aren't running the rngd daemon for
> one reason or another.  (E.g. embedded system guests.)

I wonder if a 'rngd-lite' might not be an easier solution. I cant
imagine theres going to be much performance hit.

That said, even on my full-fat x86-64 box here, rngd weighs in at just
32KB and only needs libc...

>> I still intend to submit my virtio-rng driver, if thats what you mean,
>> since it presents the data via the same routes as all the other hw rng
>> sources. I feel this approach has value.
> 
> Suddenly I'm intrigued by this "intend to submit" as I see a
> virtio-rng driver already in the 2.6 tree... What have I misunderstood?

host side driver for qemu... I guess the proper term is qdev ?

- -Ian
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