From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] qemu-kvm: Introduce writeback scope for cpu_synchronize_state
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:12:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B02AF58.4010407@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B02A4FD.4010802@redhat.com>
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Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 11/17/2009 03:05 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>
>>> Problem is, the inject channels are implied (APIC messages in smp
>>> guests). Documentation is good, but if we can avoid it that's better.
>>>
>>> Note the only way to rmw vcpu events during smp is pausing the guest,
>>> because of this race.
>>>
>> That's what qemu does on reset and load.
>>
>
> These aren't rmw.
Not logically, but ATM technically.
>
>> The alternative would be a complex get&lock/put&unlock + a queue for
>> async events during the lock + an option to ignore what was queued when
>> doing a true reset. Back to square #1: we would still need the proposed
>> high-level interface to communicate the difference between replay and
>> drop queue.
>>
>
> There's no need for get+lock / put+unlock; a normal get/put with the
You need to track when to queue and when to apply directly. Call it lock
or call it something else.
> addition that get flushes the queue suffices. To make sure queued
> events don't affect set you need to stop the entire VM before setting
> state, but you need to do that anyway for non-rmw writes.
>
Well, sounds good, but it will be a non-trivial change in the interface
semantics. At bare minimum, we would need a new mp_state interface. If
we would count mp_state to our new event structure (hmm...), then we
could confine the semantical changes to that new IOCTL pair. But how to
deal with existing KVM kernels with their mp_state interface? It's a bit
like the vcpu state thing: we are already down a specific road, and it's
hard to turn around.
Jan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-17 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-16 17:00 [RFC][PATCH] qemu-kvm: Introduce writeback scope for cpu_synchronize_state Jan Kiszka
2009-11-16 18:20 ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-16 19:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-16 21:22 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-17 8:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-17 8:14 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-17 8:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-17 9:16 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-17 12:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-17 13:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-17 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-17 14:12 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2009-11-17 14:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-17 16:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-17 16:58 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-18 13:48 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-17 16:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-18 9:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-18 13:46 ` Avi Kivity
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