From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQFf-0002uh-0E for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:22:19 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQFc-0002rz-En for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:22:16 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQFX-0002ns-Az for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:22:15 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37448 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQFW-0002nh-Ug for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:22:11 -0500 Received: from mail-ew0-f224.google.com ([209.85.219.224]:59487) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDQFV-00080M-Id for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:22:10 -0500 Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so207384ewy.26 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:22:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=+nWo5M5lYtj5DESNflR/iPwmH7Ub39j2efPiWnN6l2Y=; b=tu087vEOy4wF6WEzgeNBDS7sivB3VM4Ggz98wmJcu94B1pMY6SxF2pIP8AcE5a1HxM mjW4BsVDDbAzQrN8+i7LQ7ugaGgXpRHa00eKrk2Qjk/GVK8AvuieIsOB38pr7shOVK4C EbjUvd4Q6Vkav4osZq0NqcIBGjTNCr8E3Rtls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=HCdfRktww9Z2gs1ppyCcYs57m3SJtn9ykohdB/xPX0b5NjA/qgFB6vh0yTCOu2IrR3 1EZtc1zD7j5R/AKIBTACMUNX3GNO5Gmb1rET1OfvgfHMj5f13Q4EBJG62fFtMh0IcRtF tsqIszFBa2YPhSL5jyyFNIAt71/lLVy0F0Sco= Received: by 10.213.100.65 with SMTP id x1mr1764750ebn.67.1259187728626; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian.bg45.phnet (gprs37.swisscom-mobile.ch [193.247.250.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm52392ewy.14.2009.11.25.14.22.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:22:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B0DAE05.60604@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:21:57 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?VmxhZGltaXIgJ8+GLWNvZGVyL3BoY29kZXInIFNlcmJpbmVua28=?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The development of GNU GRUB References: <20091122235013.GA12142@pina.cat> <20091123120412.GE25009@thorin> <20091125000812.GA30522@pina.cat> <20091125003059.GA31362@pina.cat> <20091125185513.GA4997@thorin> <20091125220938.GA32313@pina.cat> In-Reply-To: <20091125220938.GA32313@pina.cat> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB8E7A2A711D10F6D1B5105AB" X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Subject: Re: gettextize normal/menu_text.c (print_timeout) X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:22:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB8E7A2A711D10F6D1B5105AB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > Hi, > > On Nov/25/2009, Robert Millan wrote: > =20 >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:30:59AM +0000, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: >> =20 >>> BTW, I left spaces on the left of lot of strings. In my opinion I wou= ld >>> delete it and call print_spaces(3);. Fine? (or call grub_printf (" = "); >>> ). >>> =20 >> Yes. >> =20 > > ok! > > > =20 >>> - grub_printf ("\n\ >>> + grub_printf (_("\ >>> Minimum Emacs-like screen editing is supported. TAB lists\n\ >>> completions. Press Ctrl-x to boot, Ctrl-c for a command-line\n= \ >>> - or ESC to return menu."); >>> + or ESC to return menu.")); >>> =20 >> These are still not right. We can't have newlines in the middle of a >> translatable string. >> =20 > > I disagree. We have to give to the translators the minimum unit of > "sense", and in this case it's three lines. We cannot force translators= > to translate the same sentence line by line because: > > a) they will not have enough context > b) they cannot rephrase enough > c) maybe in other language the first line would be longer and the secon= d > shorter, and if we split they cannot fix (less flexibility for them). > > Agree with me? > > =20 The real problem is that these newlines are hardcoded into string whereas they should be put on runtime since terminal width may vary (the string as is is tailored for 80 columns terminal) --=20 Regards Vladimir '=CF=86-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko --------------enigB8E7A2A711D10F6D1B5105AB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iF4EAREKAAYFAksNrg4ACgkQNak7dOguQgkB7gD/b3IreQW+IY4tE1kCDLUEpOnk k4C4gNHk2ZNtzqRJ2LwA/j7IW4B9Ahtrv4cEUvdWOp2DYNBtZWyOMELy3n6kOSTG =t2d5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB8E7A2A711D10F6D1B5105AB--