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From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: memcg: slab control
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:56:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B0E50B1.20602@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091126183335.7a18cb09.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:10:52 +0300
> Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> Anyway, I agree that we need another
>>>> slabcg, Pavel did some work in that area and posted patches, but they
>>>> were mostly based and limited to SLUB (IIRC).
>> I'm ready to resurrect the patches and port them for slab.
>> But before doing it we should answer one question.
>>
>> Consider we have two kmalloc-s in a kernel code - one is
>> user-space triggerable and the other one is not. From my
>> POV we should account for the former one, but should not
>> for the latter.
>>
>> If so - how should we patch the kernel to achieve that goal?
>>
>>> My point is that most of the kernel codes cannot work well when kmalloc(small area)
>>> returns NULL.
>> :) That's not so actually. As our experience shows kernel lives fine
>> when kmalloc returns NULL (this doesn't include drivers though).
>>
> One issue it comes to my mind is that file system can return -EIO because
> kmalloc() returns NULL. the kernel may work fine but terrible to users ;)

That relates to my question above - we should not account for all
kmalloc-s. In particular - we don't account for bio-s and buffer-head-s
since their amount is not under direct user control. Yes, you can
request for heavy IO, but first, kernel sends your task to sleep under 
certain conditions and second, bio-s are destroyed as soon as they are
finished and thus bio-s and buffer-head-s cannot be used to eat all the
kernel memory.


> 
> Thanks,
> -Kame
> 
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-26  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-25 23:08 memcg: slab control David Rientjes
2009-11-26  1:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26  8:50   ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-26  8:56     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26  9:10       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26  9:33         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26  9:56           ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2009-11-26 10:24             ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-11-26 12:31               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26 12:52                 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-12-01  7:40                   ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-27  7:15                 ` Ying Han
2009-11-27  9:45                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-01  5:14                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-30 22:57                 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 10:31                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-01 22:29                     ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01  7:36             ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-01 10:40               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-01 15:14                 ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-02 10:14                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-02 10:19                     ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-02 10:51                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-30 22:55         ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 10:39           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26 10:13     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-11-30  9:17       ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-30 22:45   ` David Rientjes
2009-11-26  1:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26 10:01   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-11-26  2:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-27  7:01   ` Ying Han
2009-11-27  9:48     ` Pavel Emelyanov

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