From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: malc <av1474@comtv.ru>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Ian Molton <ian.molton@collabora.co.uk>,
Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Permit zero-sized qemu_malloc() & friends
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:59:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B1BF10B.3030007@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0912062046050.4300@linmac.oyster.ru>
On 12/06/2009 07:47 PM, malc wrote:
>
>> It will never fail on Linux. On other hosts it prevents a broken oom handler
>> from taking the guest down a death spiral.
>>
> It fails here all the time i'm sorry to say, i have overcommit disabled
> (mostly because kpdf when doing a text search tends to overwhelm the VM
> subsystem and Linux happily picks X11 as it's OOM kill target)
>
Right, I meant under the default configuration. Unfortunately there is
no good configuration for Linux - without strict overcommit you'll
invoke the oom killer, with strict overcommit you'll need ridiculous
amounts of swap because fork() and MAP_PRIVATE require tons of backing
store.
On my home machine I have
$ grep Commit /proc/meminfo
CommitLimit: 7235160 kB
Committed_AS: 4386172 kB
So, 4GB of virtual memory needed just to run a normal desktop with
thunderbird+firefox. Actual anonymous memory is less than 2GB, so you
could easily run this workload on a 2GB machine without swap, but with
strict overcommit 2GB RAM + 2GB swap will see failures even though you
have free RAM.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-06 18:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-30 13:55 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Permit zero-sized qemu_malloc() & friends Markus Armbruster
2009-11-30 14:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-30 14:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-01 12:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-01 12:57 ` Paul Brook
2009-12-01 13:47 ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-01 14:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-01 14:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-01 14:21 ` Paul Brook
2009-12-01 12:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-01 13:11 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-01 14:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-01 14:53 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-01 15:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-12-04 16:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 13:55 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-05 14:14 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-05 17:08 ` malc
2009-12-05 17:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 18:30 ` Reimar Döffinger
2009-12-06 7:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-06 8:39 ` malc
2009-12-06 8:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-06 10:22 ` malc
2009-12-06 10:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 11:53 ` malc
2009-12-06 12:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 12:11 ` malc
2009-12-06 12:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 11:10 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-06 12:00 ` malc
2009-12-06 16:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07 8:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 9:42 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-07 10:00 ` malc
2009-12-07 10:17 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 10:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-06 11:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-06 12:02 ` malc
2009-12-06 16:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-06 9:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2009-12-06 10:02 ` malc
2009-12-05 17:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 18:06 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 20:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 22:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 8:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-06 18:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-06 8:12 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-06 16:52 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-06 17:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 17:45 ` malc
2009-12-06 18:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 18:12 ` malc
2009-12-06 18:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 18:41 ` malc
2009-12-07 9:47 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 10:20 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-06 22:38 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-07 2:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 9:39 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-07 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 9:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2009-12-07 8:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 17:32 ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-05 17:28 ` Blue Swirl
2009-12-05 17:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 18:16 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-05 23:08 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-05 23:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 23:25 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-06 13:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 16:58 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-06 17:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 17:47 ` malc
2009-12-06 17:59 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-12-06 18:09 ` malc
2009-12-06 18:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 18:21 ` malc
2009-12-06 22:40 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-06 18:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 9:56 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-07 11:30 ` malc
2009-12-07 14:45 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-07 16:55 ` malc
2009-12-08 8:21 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-08 10:22 ` malc
2009-12-07 15:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 16:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 16:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 16:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 16:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 16:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 16:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 16:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 16:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 17:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 17:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 17:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 17:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 17:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 17:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 18:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 18:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 19:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 19:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 16:24 ` Paul Brook
2009-12-07 16:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 16:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 16:57 ` malc
2009-12-07 17:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 17:09 ` malc
2009-12-08 9:02 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 18:12 ` Blue Swirl
2009-12-08 8:30 ` Markus Armbruster
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