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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disk image shared and exclusive locks.
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:51:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B1CEC5F.5050303@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091207112834.GB29980@shareable.org>

Am 07.12.2009 12:28, schrieb Jamie Lokier:
> Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> Am 07.12.2009 11:31, schrieb Jamie Lokier:
>>> So the distinction read/write makes more sense.  Can anyone think of a
>>> situation where a shared lock on an image opened for writing is useful?
>>
>> I think there are people using shared writable images with cluster file
>> systems.
> 
> Yes, they are.  Please the following again:
> 
>>> Sometimes shared access to a raw image (partitioned or whole disk
>>> filesystem) is ok, and sometimes it is not ok.  Only the user knows
>>> the difference, because only the user knows if the guests they are
>>> running use distinct partitions in the same raw image, or cooperative
>>> access to a shard image.
>>>
>>> But does it make sense to request a shared lock in that case?  Not
>>> really.  If you have a group of guests correctly sharing an image, you
>>> still want to prevent running the same group a second time - and a
>>> shared lock wouldn't do that, because each group would be requesting
>>> shared locks.
> 
> If you run each guest in the disk-sharing cluster with 'lock=shared',
> it reflects that they are sharing - but that doesn't actually prevent
> mistakes, does it?  If you run any of those guests a second time, it
> won't prevent that.  So what's the point in the shared lock?

Sorry, I apparently misunderstood.  I was thinking about shared vs.
exclusive whereas you are talking about shared vs. none (vs. something
completely different). I think you're right there.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-07 11:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-04 16:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disk image shared and exclusive locks Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-04 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-04 21:57   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-04 22:29     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:31       ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:47         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:55           ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:59             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 10:31               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 10:42                 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 10:48                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 10:56                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 11:28                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:51                     ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2009-12-07 12:06                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 10:45                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:19                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:30                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:31                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 11:38                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:49                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:59                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:35                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07 13:43                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:01                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:15                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:28                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:53                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08  9:40                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 11:04                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 10:58           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 11:35             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 13:39             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:08               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:22                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:31                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:55                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08  9:48                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-08 10:16                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:38               ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07  9:38   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 10:39 ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 13:38     ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 13:47       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:25     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:58       ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH VERSION 2] " Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 15:06   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08  8:48     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-08 10:00   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2009-12-08 10:25     ` Richard W.M. Jones

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