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From: Emese Revfy <re.emese@gmail.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ralf@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 28/31] Constify struct super_operations for 2.6.32 v1
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:24:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B213CD5.1070403@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091209004734.GO14381@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

Al Viro wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 01:24:34AM +0100, Emese Revfy wrote:
> 
>> If constifying the function pointer fields reduces readability,
>> what would you say for turning then into typedefs, something like this:
>>
>> typedef int (* super_ops_statfs) (struct dentry *, struct kstatfs *);
>> struct super_operations {
>> ...
>> 	const super_ops_statfs statfs;
>> ...
>> };
> 
> Even worse, since one has to go back to typedef to figure out WTF is
> going on.
>  
>>> Moreover, you *still* are not
>>> covering the real policy - these suckers should be statically allocated,
>>> not just never modified.
>> If the super ops are allocated on the stack then they will be overwritten
>> during later syscalls and will eventually crash the system on a future
>> dereference, that is, this kind of problem manifests during development.
>>
>> If the super ops are allocated by kmalloc/etc, then they will have to be
>> explicitly initialised by writing to specific fields, my patch would prevent
>> that.
>>
>> So in the end the programmer is forced to allocate and initialise super ops
>> statically.
> 
> ... unless they go ahead and use memcpy(), etc.
> 
> What you really want is
> 	* no conversions to any other pointer types for pointers to it
> and to any aggregate types containing it
> 	* no conversions from any other pointer types for the same set of
> types
> 	* all objects of that type have static storage duration
> 	* no lvalues of that type are modifiable
> 
> Which is not a job for C compiler.  Yes, (4) means that memcpy() et.al.
> give undefined behaviour.  And you get fsck-all satisfaction from knowing
> that, since C compiler is not going to warn you about it.  sparse might,
> if we teach it to do so.  Preferably - with minimal intrusiveness of
> syntax being used.

I think, all these instruments (constification, sparse, etc.) are not 
for preventing a programmer from circumventing the policy (that's impossible),
but to make it easy for the reviewer to notice it when he does so.
My patch achieves this in a very simple way for the currently uncovered case of dynamically
allocated ops structures.
--
Emese

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-10 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-06  5:14 [PATCH 28/31] Constify struct super_operations for 2.6.32 v1 Alexey Dobriyan
2009-12-06 14:23 ` Emese Revfy
2009-12-07 18:30   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-12-08  0:06     ` Emese Revfy
2009-12-08  1:51       ` Al Viro
2009-12-09  0:24         ` Emese Revfy
2009-12-09  0:47           ` Al Viro
2009-12-09  8:22             ` Olivier Galibert
2009-12-10 18:24             ` Emese Revfy [this message]
2009-12-09  1:31 ` Ralf Baechle
2009-12-09  1:45   ` Al Viro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-12-04 22:00 [PATCH 00/31] constify various _ops structures " Emese Revfy
2009-12-04 22:47 ` [PATCH 28/31] Constify struct super_operations " Emese Revfy
2009-12-06  1:23   ` Al Viro
2009-12-06  1:41     ` Emese Revfy

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