From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1NJwkA-0002mv-9p for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:16:46 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NJwk8-0002l6-At for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:16:44 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NJwk3-0002hW-JG for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:16:43 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45503 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NJwk3-0002hP-B2 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:16:39 -0500 Received: from mail-fx0-f213.google.com ([209.85.220.213]:50382) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NJwk2-0004v1-Sd for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:16:39 -0500 Received: by fxm5 with SMTP id 5so2700373fxm.8 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:16:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=Msqj6kCos3+7+oOkgTSw61YcmV4niZlrm6uaT5TaVgY=; b=IKoI7EdTufR+JiTp5toEQCIeJko0ZIa5iLRRBJVVeomO8JXda7emTLwgD66ILZOwzM qjOOnWw0vLsEsvZOgoqiJjF3R8Ltr2VVnRQqjd0HsLcc8E4ZCfeCHUozXqEj8tUC2/w4 TEutJHfCzjmQE09jPZvXiwx29BigOVIKndI2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=bLAs5G6OBM0xMwJzcX7Ou4CMD9/C+iXA1sWWnRQsf4SJ9+qFo2FLjXFDBEmJrWEFCS I4ZQ98jcsuKLPQ2T8mCqGmfHY9DRtdX+4q/EmbWEQGzgRIHVtcJ4sb/5kWDYYwF9w6Rg 7aMzArMQIhFsuuOcqNp3oZimorazWv9BlgnSw= Received: by 10.223.3.197 with SMTP id 5mr4579101fao.75.1260742597412; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:16:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian.bg45.phnet (vpn-global-dhcp1-223.ethz.ch [129.132.208.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 1sm6605882fkt.33.2009.12.13.14.16.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:16:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B2567AB.3040107@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:16:11 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?VmxhZGltaXIgJ8+GLWNvZGVyL3BoY29kZXInIFNlcmJpbmVua28=?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The development of GNU GRUB References: <20091207150831.GA8047@thorin> <4B201BC7.2050703@gmail.com> <20091209220351.GJ7093@thorin> <4B202212.2090201@gmail.com> <20091210010103.GC15546@thorin> <998914.30654.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <998914.30654.qm@web113201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig97D81B70C457C40E8039231D" X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Subject: Re: my plan for Multiboot 2 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:16:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig97D81B70C457C40E8039231D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bogdan wrote: > Is it just me or does this whole thing on abandoning Multiboot 2 seem l= ike a terrible idea? (That's a retorical question since I've already talk= ed to several people in the OSDev community about it.) The only reason wh= y people still use Multiboot is because it's the best we've got. It's not= flexible and it's way behind the needs of current OSes. > > =20 It's a misunderstanding. We don't abandon multiboot2. The draft we want to discard isn't much better than multiboot1. But we will develop multiboot1 in a way to become multiboot2 and to correspond to the need of OSes. The best you can push it is by helping us with describing and implementing features you need. As Robert said our resources are scarce that's why just a suggestion is probably not enough, you need to do thing= s. > Instead of several versions of Multiboot 1 popping up for other CPU arc= hitectures we could just have Multiboot 2. One day people will finally re= alise that no one can cope with Multiboot 1 anymore and by then we'll nee= d to support both Multiboot 1 and Multiboot 2 in all kernels/boot loaders= even for non-x86 architectures. > > =20 I prefer to have tagged multiboot before going non-x86 > Cheers, > Bogdan > > > > =20 > > > _______________________________________________ > Grub-devel mailing list > Grub-devel@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel > > =20 --=20 Regards Vladimir '=CF=86-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko --------------enig97D81B70C457C40E8039231D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iF4EAREKAAYFAkslZ7IACgkQNak7dOguQglyxQD/detza33r/08jmsSHm93O0xBu SB8kznHfIjvTN+2Qch4BAJIWoCThSg8EFOB8SESOYe/zm0Vo0tKn4Qq1qXzM6ZBe =4Eok -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig97D81B70C457C40E8039231D--