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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Raindog <raindog@macrohmasheen.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: debugging windows guests
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:39:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B281E4A.1050608@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B26D775.90809@macrohmasheen.com>

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Raindog wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am researching KVM as a malware analysis platform and had some
> questions about debugging the guest OS. In my case I intend to use
> windows guests. So my questsions are as follows:
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 1. What instrumentation facilities are their available?
> 
> 2. Is it possible to extend the debugging interface so that debugging is
> more transparent to the guest OS? IE: there is still a limit of 4 HW
> breakpoints (which makes me wonder why a LIST is used for them...)

In accelerated KVM mode, the x86 architecture restricts us to 4 break-
or watchpoints that can be active at the same time. If you switch to
emulation mode, there are no such limits. Actually, I just made use of
this for debugging a subtle stack corruption in a guest, and I had more
than 70 watchpoints active at the same time. It's just "slightly" slower
than KVM...

> 
> 3. I'm not finding any published API for interfacing with KVM/KQEMU/QEMU
> at a low level, for example, for writing custom tracers, etc. Is there
> one? Or is there something similar?

KVM provides tracepoints for the Linux ftrace framework, see related
documentation of the kernel. If you extend your guest to issue certain
events that the hypervisor sees and traces (e.g. writes to pseudo I/O
ports), you can also trace things inside the guest that are otherwise
invisible to the host. I once hacked up an ad-hoc tracing by means of
hypercalls (required some kvm patching). That also worked from guest
userspace - and revealed that even more hypercalls could be called that
way (that's fixed in KVM now).

> 
> 
> Bugs:
> 
> 1. I hit a bug w/ instruction logging using a RAM based temp folder. If
> I ran w/ the following command line:
> (Version info: QEMU PC emulator version 0.10.50 (qemu-kvm-devel-88))
> 
> qemu-system-x86_64 -hda debian.img -enable-nesting -d in_asm

-d only works in emulation mode as it relies on dynamic code translation
(TCG). For qemu-kvm, you need to switch to emulation via -no-kvm (for
upstream QEMU, it's the other way around).

> 
> It would successfully log to the tmp log file, but obviously, KVM would
> be disabled.
> 
> If I use sudo, it won't log to the file, is this a known issue?
> 
> 2. -enable-nesting on AMD hardware using a xen guest OS causes xen to
> GPF somewhere in svm_cpu_up. Is nesting supposed to work w/ Xen based
> guests?

If your host kernel or kvm-kmod is not 2.6.32 based, update first. A lot
of nested SVM fixes went in recently. If it still fails, put Alex (Graf)
and Joerg (Roedel) on CC.

Jan


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-15 23:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-15  0:25 debugging windows guests Raindog
2009-12-15 15:29 ` Yan Vugenfirer
2009-12-15 23:39 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2009-12-16  4:07   ` Raindog
2009-12-16  8:12     ` Jan Kiszka
2009-12-16  8:14   ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2009-12-16  9:38     ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-16 22:06   ` Raindog
2009-12-17  5:36     ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-17  7:05       ` Raindog
2009-12-17  8:37         ` Avi Kivity

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