From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: Andy Green <andy@warmcat.com>
Subject: Re: [Celinux-dev] CELF Project Proposal- Refactoring Qi, lightweight
 bootloader
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:33:41 +0000
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To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
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On 12/28/09 00:21, Somebody in the thread at some point said:

Hi -

> I started programming on a commodore 64.  By modern standards, that system is
> so far down into "embedded" territory it's barely a computer.  And yet people
> did development on it.

My dear Rob I got started on a PET, I can understand your POV :-)

> kicked into the server space by the iPhone and such.  I want to follow Moore's
> Law down into disruptive technology territory and find _out_ what it does.

The big challenge I see is delivering highly complex Linux devices with 
insufficient developers in a way that won't disappear up its own ass and 
kill the project / customer with delays or failure to perform.

It's nice if the device is efficient with every cycle, but that is a 
geek preoccupation.  Many customers in suits will tell to spend an extra 
$1 to overcome it by hardware and gain back $5 from accelerated time to 
market, so long as they can depend on the high quality of the software 
basis to not kill that logic by delays.

-Andy