From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NSXBN-000582-8u for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:48:21 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NSXBI-00054V-Du for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:48:20 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42464 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NSXBI-00054S-AR for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:48:16 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:58729) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NSXBH-0002jz-Ql for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:48:16 -0500 Message-ID: <4B44A2C6.4050504@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:48:38 +0200 From: Dor Laor MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm References: <4B30EFDF.4060202@codemonkey.ws> <4B31F1BA.10005@redhat.com> <4B43D4E2.9050102@codemonkey.ws> <4B4402B1.1030605@redhat.com> <4B448F36.8030605@codemonkey.ws> <4B449467.4070606@redhat.com> <4B4494FC.1080907@codemonkey.ws> <4B449608.7040102@redhat.com> <4B4496E9.2030201@redhat.com> <20100106142231.GF2248@redhat.com> <4B449EE7.4050401@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4B449EE7.4050401@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: dlaor@redhat.com List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: Gleb Natapov , "Michael S. Tsirkin" , John Cooper , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Alexander Graf On 01/06/2010 04:32 PM, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 01/06/2010 04:22 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >>> We can probably default -enable-kvm to -cpu host, as long as we explain >>> very carefully that if users wish to preserve cpu features across >>> upgrades, they can't depend on the default. >> Hardware upgrades or software upgrades? > > Yes. > I just want to remind all the the main motivation for using -cpu realModelThatWasOnceShiped is to provide correct cpu emulation for the guest. Using a random qemu|kvm64+flag1-flag2 might really cause trouble for the guest OS or guest apps. On top of -cpu nehalem we can always add fancy features like x2apic, etc.