From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:47032 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752127Ab0ALAvN (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:51:13 -0500 Message-ID: <4B4BC75B.405@zytor.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:50:35 -0800 From: "H. Peter Anvin" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PATCH] Makefile: do not override LC_CTYPE References: <20100108115745.GA14758@sepie.suse.cz> <1262952988-16563-1-git-send-email-mmarek@suse.cz> <4B47C94E.8070302@redhat.com> <4B47CACA.7080103@zytor.com> <20100111105201.2d86135b@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100111105201.2d86135b@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kbuild-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: To: Alan Cox Cc: Masami Hiramatsu , Michal Marek , Simon Horman , Roland Dreier , Sam Ravnborg , Sergei Trofimovich , linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org On 01/11/2010 02:52 AM, Alan Cox wrote: >> This is tolower/toupper()? Do there exist locales where tolower/toupper >> on ASCII input do weird things, or are we merely hypothesizing? > > Turkish is the famous one for this and usually causes > internationalisation chaos. So yes they exist, and there are worse more > esoteric cases. There are good reasons sed and friends support classes as > well as old C locale style ranges. > Ah yes, forgot about Turkish. Apparently Lithuanian and Azeri also have special rules for the letters I and J. Sigh. -hpa From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "H. Peter Anvin" Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:50:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [PATCH] Makefile: do not override LC_CTYPE Message-Id: <4B4BC75B.405@zytor.com> List-Id: References: <20100108115745.GA14758@sepie.suse.cz> <1262952988-16563-1-git-send-email-mmarek@suse.cz> <4B47C94E.8070302@redhat.com> <4B47CACA.7080103@zytor.com> <20100111105201.2d86135b@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100111105201.2d86135b@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Alan Cox Cc: Masami Hiramatsu , Michal Marek , Simon Horman , Roland Dreier , Sam Ravnborg , Sergei Trofimovich , linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org On 01/11/2010 02:52 AM, Alan Cox wrote: >> This is tolower/toupper()? Do there exist locales where tolower/toupper >> on ASCII input do weird things, or are we merely hypothesizing? > > Turkish is the famous one for this and usually causes > internationalisation chaos. So yes they exist, and there are worse more > esoteric cases. There are good reasons sed and friends support classes as > well as old C locale style ranges. > Ah yes, forgot about Turkish. Apparently Lithuanian and Azeri also have special rules for the letters I and J. Sigh. -hpa