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From: Douglas Gilbert <dgilbert@interlog.com>
To: scameron@beardog.cce.hp.com
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, mikem@beardog.cce.hp.com,
	dab@hp.com, hch@infradead.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Is this a known problem with the SCSI mid layer?
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:24:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B4F617B.5050609@interlog.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100114165602.GY13413@beardog.cce.hp.com>

scameron@beardog.cce.hp.com wrote:
> I'm seeing a problem which I think is a problem in the SCSI mid layer.
> 
> Check this out:
> 
> I can rmmod and insmod hpsa (a modified version from 
> what's currently in the mainline tree, but I don't think
> that matters.)
> 
> I have one logical drive present
> 
> [root@slicer ~]# rmmod hpsa
> [root@slicer ~]# insmod /usr/src/linux-2.6.27.42/drivers/scsi/hpsa.ko
> [root@slicer ~]# cat /proc/scsi/scsi
> Attached devices:
> Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
>   Vendor: HP       Model: 1210m            Rev: 0150
>   Type:   RAID                             ANSI  SCSI revision: 05
> Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 01
>   Vendor: HP       Model: 1210m VOLUME     Rev: 0150
>   Type:   Direct-Access                    ANSI  SCSI revision: 05
> [root@slicer ~]# rmmod hpsa
> [root@slicer ~]# insmod /usr/src/linux-2.6.27.42/drivers/scsi/hpsa.ko
> [root@slicer ~]# cat /proc/scsi/scsi
> Attached devices:
> Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
>   Vendor: HP       Model: 1210m            Rev: 0150
>   Type:   RAID                             ANSI  SCSI revision: 05
> Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 01
>   Vendor: HP       Model: 1210m VOLUME     Rev: 0150
>   Type:   Direct-Access                    ANSI  SCSI revision: 05
> [root@slicer ~]# lsscsi -g
> [2:0:0:0]    storage HP       1210m            0150  -         /dev/sg0
> [2:0:0:1]    disk    HP       1210m VOLUME     0150  /dev/sda  /dev/sg1
> 
> So far, so good.
> 
> Now, watch this.  Remove the device while something has it open:
> 
> [root@slicer ~]# sleep 10 < /dev/sg1 & ( sleep 1 && echo scsi remove-single-device 2 0 0 1 > /proc/scsi/scsi )
> [1] 6077
> [root@slicer ~]# 
> [1]+  Done                    sleep 10 < /dev/sg1
> [root@slicer ~]# lsof /dev/sg1
> lsof: status error on /dev/sg1: No such file or directory
> lsof 4.78
>  latest revision: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/
>  latest FAQ: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/FAQ
>  latest man page: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/lsof_man
>  usage: [-?abhlnNoOPRstUvVX] [+|-c c] [+|-d s] [+D D] [+|-f]
>  [-F [f]] [-g [s]] [-i [i]] [+|-L [l]] [+m [m]] [+|-M] [-o [o]]
>  [-p s] [+|-r [t]] [-S [t]] [-T [t]] [-u s] [+|-w] [-x [fl]] [-Z [Z]] [--] [names]
> Use the ``-h'' option to get more help information.
> [root@slicer ~]# rmmod hpsa
> ERROR: Module hpsa is in use
> [root@slicer ~]#
> 
> Hmm, that's not cool.

Steve,
That 'sleep 10 < /dev/sg1' worries me. The purpose of a
read() on a sg device is to fetch the response of a SCSI
command sent by a preceding write(). So with nothing to
read and a blocking sg device file descriptor the read()
probably hangs. IMO the valid use of the sg driver should
not have a read() hanging for a SCSI command that was
never sent. While that is happening you remove the
device.

That may be a valid torture test for the sg driver but
isn't something that should be encouraged from the
user space.

On a Ubuntu kernel 2.6.31-17-generic using a virtual
device owned by the scsi_debug driver and the same
torture test, I don't have a problem with 'rmmod scsi_debug'

IMO the usb-storage driver is not a good yardstick.

Doug Gilbert


> Maybe it's my driver.  Let me try with USB.
> 
> [root@slicer ~]# cat /proc/scsi/scsi
> Attached devices:
> Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
>   Vendor: USB      Model: DISK 2.0         Rev: 0403
>   Type:   Direct-Access                    ANSI  SCSI revision: 00
> [root@slicer ~]# lsmod | grep sd
> sd_mod                 59592  0 
> scsi_mod              189304  9 usb_storage,ib_iser,iscsi_tcp,libiscsi,scsi_transport_iscsi,scsi_dh,sg,cciss,sd_mod
> [root@slicer ~]# rmmod usb_storage
> [root@slicer ~]# cat /proc/scsi/scsi
> Attached devices:
> [root@slicer ~]# modprobe usb_storage
> [root@slicer ~]# cat /proc/scsi/scsi
> Attached devices:
> [root@slicer ~]# echo scsi add-single-device 1 0 0 0 > /proc/scsi/scsi
> -bash: echo: write error: No such device or address
> 
> Oh yeah, the host number increments, forgot about that...
> 
> [root@slicer ~]# echo scsi add-single-device 2 0 0 0 > /proc/scsi/scsi
> [root@slicer ~]# cat /proc/scsi/scsi
> Attached devices:
> Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
>   Vendor: USB      Model: DISK 2.0         Rev: 0403
>   Type:   Direct-Access                    ANSI  SCSI revision: 00
> [root@slicer ~]# lsscsi -g
> [2:0:0:0]    disk    USB      DISK 2.0         0403  /dev/sda  /dev/sg0
> [root@slicer ~]# sleep 10 < /dev/sg0 & ( sleep 1 && echo scsi remove-single-device 2 0 0 0 > /proc/scsi/scsi )
> [1] 6073
> [root@slicer ~]# 
> [root@slicer ~]# 
> [1]+  Done                    sleep 10 < /dev/sg0
> [root@slicer ~]# rmmod usb_storage
> ERROR: Module usb_storage is in use
> [root@slicer ~]#
> 
> Hmm, same thing.
> 
> Any thoughts?  (other than "don't do that."  Our array configuration
> utility for smart arrays is causing similar trouble, as it rapidly creates
> and deletes logical drives, etc. so it would be nice if this didn't happen.)

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-14 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-14 16:56 Is this a known problem with the SCSI mid layer? scameron
2010-01-14 18:24 ` Douglas Gilbert [this message]
2010-01-14 19:00   ` scameron
2010-01-14 20:07   ` scameron
2010-01-14 23:43     ` Stefan Richter
2010-01-15  8:10       ` Jens Axboe
2010-01-15  9:03         ` Stefan Richter
2010-01-15 21:44           ` scameron
2010-01-16 11:47             ` FUJITA Tomonori
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-15  2:14 Stephen Cameron
2010-01-15 13:02 ` Stefan Richter
2010-01-15 14:18   ` Stephen Cameron
2010-01-15 17:50     ` Douglas Gilbert

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