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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de,
	andi@firstfloor.org, roland@redhat.com, rth@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/8] jump label v4 - x86: Introduce generic jump patching without stop_machine
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:23:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B548B09.7040309@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B548562.6030008@redhat.com>

On 01/18/2010 07:59 AM, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This part bothers me. The text_poke just writes over the text
>>>>> directly (using a separate mapping). But if that memory is in the
>>>>> pipeline of another CPU, I think this could cause a GPF.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could you clarify why you think that?
>>>
>>> Basically, what Steven and I were concerned about in this particular
>>> patch version is the fact that this code took a "shortcut" for
>>> single-byte text modification, thus bypassing the int3-bypass scheme
>>> altogether.
>>
>> single byte instruction updates are likely 100x safer than any scheme
>> of multi-byte instruction scheme that I have seen, other than a full
>> stop_machine().
>>
>> That does not mean it is safe, it just means it's an order of
>> complexity less to analyze ;-)
> 
> Yeah, so in the latest patch, I updated it to use int3 even if
> len == 1. :-)
> 

This really doesn't make much sense to me.  The whole basis for the int3
scheme itself is that single-byte updates are atomic, so if single-byte
updates can't work -- and as I stated, we at Intel OTC currently believe
it safe -- then int3 can't work either.

The one thing to watch out for is that unless you force an IPI/IRET
cycle afterwards, you can't know when any particular remote processor
will see the update.

	-hpa

-- 
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel.  I don't speak on their behalf.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-18 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-12 16:26 [RFC PATCH 0/8] jump label v4 Jason Baron
2010-01-12 16:26 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] jump label v4 - kprobes/x86: Cleanup RELATIVEJUMP_INSTRUCTION to RELATIVEJUMP_OPCODE Jason Baron
2010-01-12 16:26 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] jump label v4 - x86: Introduce generic jump patching without stop_machine Jason Baron
2010-01-12 23:16   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-13  2:06     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13  4:55       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-13 14:30         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14  6:57           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-14 18:45           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-04-13 17:16             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13  5:38     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-14 15:32   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-14 15:36     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-17 18:55       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-17 19:16         ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-18 15:59           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-18 16:23             ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2010-01-18 16:52               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-18 18:50                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-18 20:53                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-18 21:18                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-18 21:32                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-18 16:31             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-18 16:54               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-18 18:21                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-18 18:33                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 15:39     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 16:23       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-14 16:42         ` Jason Baron
2010-01-12 16:26 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] jump label v4 - move opcode definitions Jason Baron
2010-01-12 16:26 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] jump label v4 - notifier atomic call chain notrace Jason Baron
2010-01-12 16:26 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] jump label v4 - base patch Jason Baron
2010-01-12 16:26 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] jump label v4 - x86 support Jason Baron
2010-01-12 16:26 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] jump label v4 - tracepoint support Jason Baron
2010-01-12 16:26 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] jump label v4 - add module support Jason Baron
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-17 22:56 [RFC PATCH 2/8] jump label v4 - x86: Introduce generic jump patching without stop_machine H. Peter Anvin

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