From: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Dan Terpstra <terpstra@eecs.utk.edu>,
Philip Mucci <mucci@eecs.utk.edu>,
Maynard Johnson <mpjohn@us.ibm.com>, Carl Love <cel@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] perf_events: support for uncore a.k.a. nest units
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:28:59 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B57597B.1020402@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100120093555.GA24355@basil.fritz.box>
On 1/20/2010 1:35 AM, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> Yes, I agree. Also it's easy to construct a system design that doesn't
>> have a hierarchical topology. A simple example would be a cluster of 32
>> nodes, each of which is connected to its 31 neighbors. Perhaps for the
>
> I doubt it's needed or useful to describe all details of an interconnect.
>
At this point, I don't see a need for that level of detail either.
> If detailed distance information is needed a simple table like
> the SLIT table exported by ACPI would seem easier to handle.
>
Thanks for the pointer. I didn't know about the ACPI SLIT and SRAT tables until
your post. Having had a quick look at them, I don't think they'd be that
helpful to us, at least at this point.
> But at least some degree of locality (e.g. "local memory controller")
> would make sense.
I think locality could be determined by looking at the device tree. For
example, a memory controller for a particular processor chip would be a
subdirectory of that chip.
>
>> purposes of just enumerating PMUs, a tree might be sufficient, but it's not
>> clear to me that it is mathematically sufficient for all topologies, not to
>> mention if it's intuitive enough to use. For example,
>> highly-interconnected components might require that PMU leaf nodes be
>> duplicated in multiple branches, i.e. PMU paths might not be unique in some
>> topologies.
>
> We already have cyclical graphs in sysfs using symlinks. I'm not
> sure they are all that easy to parse/handle, but at least they
> can be described.
Good point.
--
Regards,
- Corey
Corey Ashford
Software Engineer
IBM Linux Technology Center, Linux Toolchain
Beaverton, OR
503-578-3507
cjashfor@us.ibm.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-20 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-19 19:41 [RFC] perf_events: support for uncore a.k.a. nest units Corey Ashford
2010-01-20 0:44 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-20 1:49 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-20 9:35 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-20 19:28 ` Corey Ashford [this message]
2010-01-20 13:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20 21:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20 23:23 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-21 7:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-21 19:13 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-21 19:28 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-27 10:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-27 19:50 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-28 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-28 18:00 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-28 19:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-28 19:44 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-28 22:08 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-29 9:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-29 23:05 ` Corey Ashford
2010-01-30 8:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-01 19:39 ` Corey Ashford
2010-02-01 19:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 8:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 8:47 ` stephane eranian
2010-01-21 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 9:16 ` stephane eranian
2010-01-21 9:43 ` stephane eranian
[not found] ` <d3f22a1003290213x7d7904an59d50eb6a8616133@mail.gmail.com>
2010-03-30 7:42 ` Lin Ming
2010-03-30 16:49 ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-30 17:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-30 22:12 ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-31 14:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-31 14:13 ` stephane eranian
2010-03-31 15:49 ` Maynard Johnson
2010-03-31 17:50 ` Corey Ashford
2010-04-15 21:16 ` Gary.Mohr
2010-04-16 13:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 9:08 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-19 9:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-20 11:55 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-20 12:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-21 8:08 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21 8:32 ` stephane eranian
2010-04-21 8:39 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21 8:44 ` stephane eranian
2010-04-21 9:42 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21 9:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-21 22:12 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-21 22:38 ` Lin Ming
2010-04-21 14:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-30 21:28 ` stephane eranian
2010-03-30 23:11 ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-31 13:43 ` stephane eranian
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