From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
"Ian Jackson" <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: dom0 pvops crash
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:02:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B5DF8E5.9040906@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C783A22C.7599%keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>
On 01/25/2010 11:31 AM, Keir Fraser wrote:
> On 25/01/2010 19:00, "Jeremy Fitzhardinge"<jeremy@goop.org> wrote:
>
>
>> On 01/25/2010 10:57 AM, Keir Fraser wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps we need a branch in the git repo that includes just-get-it-working
>>> patches? Aren't we going to have a 4.0 stable branch anyway, which would do
>>> the trick?
>>>
>>>
>> Yeah. I don't think there's an upstreamable fix, but we can hack
>> something together to make it work.
>>
> Hm, do you mean 'we don't currently have an upstreamable fix', or 'there is
> no possible upstreamable fix now or ever'?
>
I'll need to refresh my memory for the precise details, but the basic
problem is that there's a path in the pagefault code where the kernel
breaks its own locking rules by kmapping a high pte page without holding
the pagetable lock. In the native case this is OK, but it breaks Xen
because the pte page can be unpinned at that point, but can race with it
being pinned on another CPU.This can fail in several ways, depending on
the exact timing: the other CPU's pin could fail because of the writable
kmapping, or the writable kmap could fail because the page has since
become pinned.
The brute-force fix is to lock the pte page properly, but given that its
in the hot part of the pagefault path, and the unlocked access is
presumably a performance enhancement, I don't think that will fly.
IanC, Pasi, myself and others explored a number of other ways to try and
fix it in the Xen pvops code, but they all turned out to be very
expensive, just not work (they just pushed the race around), or require
new pvops just for this case. Given that HIGHPTE is generally a bad
idea and should be deprecated (any machine big enough to need it should
definitely be running a 64-bit kernel), I've left it on the backburner
hoping for some inspiration to strike. So far it has not.
J
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-25 20:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-25 16:29 dom0 pvops crash Ian Jackson
2010-01-25 17:10 ` Keir Fraser
2010-01-25 17:28 ` Ian Jackson
2010-01-25 17:54 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-01-25 18:03 ` Ian Jackson
2010-01-25 18:57 ` Keir Fraser
2010-01-25 19:00 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-01-25 19:31 ` Keir Fraser
2010-01-25 20:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2010-01-26 11:53 ` Jan Beulich
2010-01-27 17:26 ` Ian Campbell
2010-01-27 18:50 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-01-27 19:18 ` Ian Campbell
2010-01-27 19:34 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-01-27 20:03 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-01-27 20:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-02-07 19:35 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-02-07 21:42 ` Ian Campbell
2010-02-07 22:22 ` Daniel Stodden
2010-02-08 7:41 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-02-08 7:47 ` Ian Campbell
2010-02-08 8:06 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-02-08 8:50 ` Ian Campbell
2010-02-08 8:57 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-02-08 12:57 ` Xen pvops kernel CONFIG_HIGHPTE race/crash Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-02-08 17:34 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-02-09 9:14 ` Ian Campbell
2010-01-25 18:18 ` dom0 pvops crash Ian Pratt
2010-01-25 18:26 ` Ian Campbell
2010-02-02 10:23 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-02-02 10:31 ` Ian Campbell
2010-02-02 10:45 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-01-25 17:11 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-01-25 17:30 ` Ian Jackson
2010-01-25 17:42 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-01-26 13:45 ` Ian Jackson
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