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From: Giovanni Tessore <giotex@texsoft.it>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Read errors on raid5 ignored, array still clean .. then	disaster !!
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:52:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B6455BD.5090504@texsoft.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100130075805.GB15471@maude.comedia.it>


>> Into a previous post I suggested to let at least the admins to be 
>> conscious of the sistuation:
>>
>> I think it's also a mess for the image of the whole linux server 
>> community: try to explain to a customer that his robust raid system, 
>> with 6 disks plus 2 hot spares, just died because there were read 
>> errors, which were well kwnown by the system; and that now all his 
>> valuable data are lost!!! That customer may say "What a 
>> server...!!!", kill you, then get a win server by sure!!
>
> Oh, please, stop trolling.
>

Ok, maybe I'm a bit nervous due to the data loss... touche'
But the problem exists, and it's not only mine: I just see another post 
sent today on similar problem. So it's worth discuss on it, imho, 
because it may involve many installations.

Suppose you have a single disc: if it gives a read error, you lose some 
data and then? Do you keep the disc or do you replace it as soon as 
possible? I guess the second. So I would adopt the same policy if the 
drive is into a raid array too, moreover as one would excpect from it 
the maximun safety. To kick the disk out from the array at the first 
read error is not a good choice too, I agree, as the array can still 
run, BUT the urgency of replacing the disk is the same as for a faulty 
disk, as the array may not survive another disk failure! This should be 
clearly exposed to admin.

I already posted a little path for /proc/mdadm.
I'll try to write a little daemon to track /sys/block/mdXX/rdYY/errors.

Giovanni

-- 
Cordiali saluti.
Yours faithfully.

Giovanni Tessore



  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-30 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-26 22:28 Read errors on raid5 ignored, array still clean .. then disaster !! Giovanni Tessore
2010-01-27  7:41 ` Luca Berra
2010-01-27  9:01   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-01-29 10:48   ` Neil Brown
2010-01-29 11:58     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-01-29 19:14     ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-01-30  7:58       ` Luca Berra
2010-01-30 15:52         ` Giovanni Tessore [this message]
2010-01-30  7:54     ` Luca Berra
2010-01-30 10:55     ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-01-30 18:44     ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-01-30 21:41       ` Asdo
2010-01-30 22:20         ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-01-31  1:23           ` Roger Heflin
2010-01-31 10:45             ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-01-31 14:08               ` Roger Heflin
2010-01-31 14:31         ` Asdo
2010-02-01 10:56           ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-01 12:45             ` Asdo
2010-02-01 15:11               ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-01 13:27             ` Luca Berra
2010-02-01 15:51               ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-01-27  9:01 ` Asdo
2010-01-27 10:09   ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-01-27 10:50     ` Asdo
2010-01-27 15:06       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-01-27 16:15       ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-01-27 19:33     ` Richard Scobie
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-27  9:56 Giovanni Tessore

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