From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.geekisp.com ([216.168.135.169] helo=starfish.geekisp.com) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NeYWp-0001TQ-68 for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:40:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 11949 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Feb 2010 18:37:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.167?) (philip@opensdr.com@127.0.0.1) by mail.geekisp.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2010 18:37:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4B7059EF.8020607@balister.org> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:37:35 -0500 From: Philip Balister User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100120 Fedora/3.0.1-1.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org References: <18e217241002080848t193add2drd5603d0c252ee509@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <18e217241002080848t193add2drd5603d0c252ee509@mail.gmail.com> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 216.168.135.169 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: philip@balister.org X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:20:07 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on linuxtogo.org); Unknown failure Subject: Re: Working with OEMs X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:40:16 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 02/08/2010 11:48 AM, C Michael Sundius wrote: > - I find it a bit dishartening that Holger does not recommend you to use OE > for software development. One of the main reasons we were in search for a > comprehensive build system was so that we could offer a consistent means of > buliding our entire distribution to all developers and Configurtion Mgmt, > Testing, Release teams alike with out everyone having to be an expert with > all parts of the system (and all different build tools that had cropped up > in the different locations we have engineers - india, US east coast, west > coast). It *is* difficult to make it work for devlopers and build teams > alike, but having a consistent means building software is a huge step > creating a really great build system. Further if people are discouraged from > using OE as a tool for developers, then it will never get any better and > this hole of support in OE will not be filled. Another way of looking at Holder's response is that we feel we could do a better job of supporting people using OE to do software development. There are certainly ways to use OE to do SW development. I would really like to see us look at improving the experience for people doing sw dev for OE based distributions. Philip