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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Cc: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Valentin Longchamp <valentin.longchamp@epfl.ch>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RESEND] soc-camera: add runtime pm support for    subdevices
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:10:11 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B717AD3.4050500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0c196b926b744e04a94850d4d3b1e029.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>

Hans Verkuil wrote:
>> Hans Verkuil wrote:

>>> But if you have ideas to improve the core to make it easier to add pm
>>> support to the drivers that need it, then I am all for it.
>> IMO, the runtime pm should be supported at V4L core, but some callbacks
>> are
>> needed. Also, I can see some classes of PM at the core:
>>
>> 	TV standard demod and sensors only need to be powerup when streaming.
> 
> Definitely not the demod: that's generally used to detect whether there is
> a TV signal and what audio format is used. You want that also when not
> streaming. I guess it can be powered down though when no files are open.

This is device-specific: on some devices, the tuner provides the info (and
even decode the audio carrier). Also, on some modes (e. g. radio), the demod 
may be turned off.

>> So, I think that we'll need some callbacks to the drivers, in order to do
>> the
>> power management on the applicable components. The final action should be
>> at
>> the driver level, but supported by the core.
> 
> I guess the essential information is:
> 
> 1) is someone using the driver (i.e. is a device node open, which is not
> necessarily limited to v4l2-type device nodes)?
> 2) are we actively streaming from or to some particular input or output?
> 
> And we probably need some easy way to detect and set the powersaving state
> for each component (subdev or the main v4l2_device).

krefs can be a good alternative to check device usage and enable powersaving,
but we'll need some callbacks to save/restore chip register values per dev/subdev.
> 
> I really need to research the pm stuff...
> 
> Regards,
> 
>          Hans
> 
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>         Hans
>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Guennadi
>>>> ---
>>>> Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D.
>>>> Freelance Open-Source Software Developer
>>>> http://www.open-technology.de/
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mauro
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> 
> 


-- 

Cheers,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-09 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-08  9:50 [PATCH/RESEND] soc-camera: add runtime pm support for subdevices Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-08 13:34 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-02-08 14:06   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-08 18:04     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-02-09 10:27       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-09 10:27       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-09 11:22         ` Hans Verkuil
2010-02-09 11:22         ` Hans Verkuil
2010-02-09 12:02           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-09 12:02           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-09 12:13             ` Hans Verkuil
2010-02-09 12:13             ` Hans Verkuil
2010-02-09 12:44               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-09 12:44               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-09 13:02               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-02-09 14:37                 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-02-09 14:37                 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-02-09 15:10                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2010-02-09 15:10                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-02-09 15:50                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-09 15:50                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-09 13:02               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-02-08 18:04     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-02-08 14:06   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-08 13:34 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-02-08 22:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-08 22:10 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-09  8:12   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-09  8:12   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-09 15:18 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-02-09 15:42   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-09 15:42   ` [linux-pm] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2010-02-09 16:24     ` Alan Stern
2010-02-09 16:24     ` Alan Stern
2010-02-09 15:18 ` Alan Stern
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-02-08  9:50 Guennadi Liakhovetski

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