From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1NfppC-0000eC-Ai for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:20:26 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NfppA-0000d7-Iu for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:20:24 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60771 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nfpp9-0000cT-MN for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:20:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfpp9-0000eh-2N for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:20:23 -0500 Received: from mail-yx0-f186.google.com ([209.85.210.186]:48665) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfpp8-0000eb-Uv for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:20:22 -0500 Received: by yxe16 with SMTP id 16so1890128yxe.1 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:20:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WDrhL8qqK7jXoiu7yIT4S5c602N4ItKH5xAwOimy0MQ=; b=gUbJ376A0EspQhv4CaxhXSgygMx4lnyjIsyd75UBPx8vCMnI790ZailKQAjL/9qtpo O/omPYqzLM1kubO9nboIo/UZaa8C/ZCj/xMberCKCBk+veVVDRsqHBOo8xhjkTHUJ5N9 2FV3Llx4hRcunwVp131pV8kUwKy1XNnkNnCLw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vf9fXvJ7Sam7Y9zYYw4wj2mxOg2Z23DdZTdXF3uJx02gEvsJinSURR6HYpzdnLDGoQ ZjbwU/Iz7Y6c5md/QRAAWLC7odpy4SQeWxDgeC2eOrMptOdUcpF/F2x67ALGCoPj4AUs krnGwp3zatemYJqR11Bt8+xW9F89xbnJGjHKA= Received: by 10.150.194.16 with SMTP id r16mr1804403ybf.194.1265959222167; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.75? (cpe-24-174-183-197.satx.res.rr.com [24.174.183.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm1292004ywd.52.2010.02.11.23.20.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:20:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B750134.4090203@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:20:20 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080722 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The development of GNU GRUB References: <4B585690.8090602@gmail.com> <1264160815.29881.61.camel@EK> <4B5EB1A5.5040200@gmail.com> <1264500247.3195.22.camel@EK> <1265958489.2292.33.camel@EK> In-Reply-To: <1265958489.2292.33.camel@EK> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Subject: Re: Antialiased fonts patch. X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:20:24 -0000 Evgeny Kolesnikov wrote: > If we really care about speed we should use 1-bit fonts. Nothing can be > faster. And 1-bit fonts will stay here. > > But if we care about eye-candy view, we should not throw away any bits > from FT library result. This will not be fast enough to replace 1-bit > fonts, and it will differ from other desktop apps. So, what the profit? > > You also may concern about font size itsef (15-30 Mb for sub-pixel AA), > but who really care about it when 1 Tb HDD costs less than 100$? Also we > can gzip entire font file later if it will really be the problem. Actually I don't understand why AA fonts are needed for a screen that most users will look at for about 3 seconds to select their OS and boot. I suspect most distros will set up grub to skip the GRUB screen completely. Is the effort worth the cost? I suppose doing it 'because you can' or because someone is 'scratching and itch' is OK, but I don't think it should be a major consideration. -- Bruce