From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1NimfD-0004vr-E3 for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:34:19 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NimfB-0004vG-S5 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:34:17 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53016 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NimfA-0004uu-Pm for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:34:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NimfA-0004kk-LT for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:34:17 -0500 Received: from mail-ew0-f228.google.com ([209.85.219.228]:32935) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NimfA-0004kd-G6 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:34:16 -0500 Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so937537ewy.8 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:34:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=S8P5+NWXBL5omY26m6dBNZb1JM7RdyVDevC2A4JtTl0=; b=xyCB6il2CwUfZkuFQBwJGcejX8g9tknWbzglsdoMfNMcI7bfkzIVbKosgjAIAD1c28 emdtw3D68DQ5jowpBTo4XkJZVAZ7jWkdS7ShpZkPOHNsdcBz4/mJ0wBikeKGsd8Ciiaz PO1b8BwDul8UwcNmcQ4UpBkQUVwCYFrhB+olg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=Bpomy3MYcq2kJIgil/Fpg0JuPkE+/KoD0HcC9tdltmDMOTrLpBmyFfyngYCjwExmyR vx8SINEvGfrlqpNGc2f9nu9439r/msADstFkMHTEsoAA2m0d/0bL1sZJH6qv5zI6NAxr kM7nDJBNnSZpHoT+j8N7duYY3UvcGRo+jtHEE= Received: by 10.213.100.129 with SMTP id y1mr1854262ebn.47.1266662054987; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian.bg45.phnet ([81.62.151.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm690239ewy.8.2010.02.20.02.34.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:34:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B7FBA9D.7020202@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:34:05 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?VmxhZGltaXIgJ8+GLWNvZGVyL3BoY29kZXInIFNlcmJpbmVua28=?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The development of GNU GRUB References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig900D10E814C7544C6CA0E482" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Subject: Re: Lead-up message 'Welcome to GRUB!' inverted text printed lowlevel via BIOS ?!? X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:34:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig900D10E814C7544C6CA0E482 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robo L wrote: > > I mean, that Grub print via lowlevel printig (int 0x10) with > proprietary string data. It's true that most BIOSes are proprietary and we're against non-free firmware. Unfortunately, however, most motherboards around aren't supported by any free firmware so we have to cope with what we have. We encourage you to use motherboards with free firmware. I'm aware of 3 categories of such: 1) Coreboot has made a great job in freeing x86-based mobos. You can consult their list here: http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Motherboards 2) Touchbook by always innovating http://alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm claims to use U-Boot and supply the complete sources. I haven't checked this claim however 3) Yeeloong by Lemote http://www.lemote.com/english/yeeloong.html. It uses PMON, soon GRUB will work as firmware on it too (big parts are done)= On BIOS grub uses its interrupts by default because this interface usually supports the hardware user has and on coreimg stage it allows to shave off few bytes. However we move to using our own drivers since firmware interface is often buggy and/or incomplete. > > Please can You tell me what is a reason? How is a solution? Is it a > correct by the licence? GRUB doesn't link with BIOS > > Many thanks > > Robo > > --=20 > ----------------------------------------- > E=3Dmc2 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > _______________________________________________ > Grub-devel mailing list > Grub-devel@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel > =20 --=20 Regards Vladimir '=CF=86-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko --------------enig900D10E814C7544C6CA0E482 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iF4EAREKAAYFAkt/uqMACgkQNak7dOguQglnOQEApuwmwV4LJostsGqXRG3V4u+g xL+ytcqMdKQnG90O+GAA/0MRHZPVeYPGjNK74M5GagR2K8qNFIfgKMQnM/b87dho =/sUG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig900D10E814C7544C6CA0E482--