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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Vadim Rozenfeld <vrozenfe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH] performance improvement for windows guests, running on top of virtio block device
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:11:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B86AF40.5090401@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201002251506.05318.paul@codesourcery.com>

On 02/25/2010 05:06 PM, Paul Brook wrote:
>>> Idle bottom halves (i.e. qemu_bh_schedule_idle) are just bugs waiting to
>>> happen, and should never be used for anything.
>>>        
>> Idle bottom halves make considerable more sense than the normal bottom
>> halves.
>>
>> The fact that rescheduling a bottom half within a bottom half results in
>> an infinite loop is absurd.  It is equally absurd that bottoms halves
>> alter the select timeout.  The result of that is that if a bottom half
>> schedules another bottom half, and that bottom half schedules the
>> previous, you get a tight infinite loop.  Since bottom halves are used
>> often times deep within functions, the result is very subtle infinite
>> loops (that we've absolutely encountered in the past).
>>      
> I disagree. The "select timeout" is a completely irrelevant implementation
> detail. Anything that relies on it is just plain wrong. If you require a delay
> then you should be using a timer. If scheduling a BH directly then you should
> expect it to be processed without delay.
>    

I agree.  Further, once we fine-grain device threading, the iothread 
essentially disappears and is replaced by device-specific threads.  
There's no "idle" anymore.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-25 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-11  7:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH] performance improvement for windows guests, running on top of virtio block device Vadim Rozenfeld
2010-01-11  8:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]   ` <4B4AE95D.7080305@redhat.com>
2010-01-11  9:19     ` Dor Laor
2010-01-11 13:11       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-11 13:13         ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 13:16           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-11 13:47           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-11 14:00             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-24  2:58               ` Paul Brook
2010-02-24 14:59                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-25 15:06                   ` Paul Brook
2010-02-25 15:23                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-25 16:48                       ` Paul Brook
2010-02-25 17:11                     ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-02-25 17:15                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-25 17:33                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-25 18:05                           ` malc
2010-02-25 19:55                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26  8:47                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 14:36                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 15:39                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 13:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-11 13:49     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 14:29       ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 14:37         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 14:46           ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 15:13             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 15:19               ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 15:22                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 15:31                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 15:32                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 15:35                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 15:38                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 18:22               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-11 18:20           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-11 14:25     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity

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