From: "Stefan /*St0fF*/ Hübner" <stefan.huebner@stud.tu-ilmenau.de>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: emergency call for help: raid5 fallen apart
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:52:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B8A66F7.2090603@stud.tu-ilmenau.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B8A5887.4080102@stud.tu-ilmenau.de>
Sorry @all, I had a few typos:
Stefan /*St0fF*/ Hübner schrieb:
> [...]
> BUT: if the drive takes let's say 2 min for internal error recovery to
> succeed of fail (whichever, doesn't matter), then the SG EH layer of the
-> succeed OR fail
> kernel will drop the disk, not md. This forces md to drop the disk,
> also. The conclusion is: a technology is needed to prevent another
> kernel level from dropping the disk. This technology exists, it's
> called SCT-ERC (Smart Control Transport - Error Recovery Control). It's
> the same as WD's TLER or Samsung's CCTL. But it is non-volatile. After
-> But it is volatile.
> a power on reset the timeout-values are reset to factory defaults. So
> it needs to be set right before adding a disk to an array.
> (for more info: check www.t13.org, find the ATA8-ACS documents)
>> I do think we urgently need the hot reconstruction/recovery feature, so
>> failing drives can be recovered to fresh drives with two sources of
>> data, i.e. both the failing drive and the remaining drives in the array,
>> giving us two chances of recovering every sector.
>
> I do not think this is easily possible. One would have to keep a map
> about the "in sync" sectors of an array member and the "failed" sectors.
> My guess is: this would need a partial redesign (again a new superblock
> type containing information about "failed segments" probably).
> Please correct me if I'm wrong and that is already included in 1.X (I'm
> mostly working on 0.90 Superblocks).
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John.
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> Cheers,
> Stefan.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-28 12:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-24 14:54 emergency call for help: raid5 fallen apart Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-02-24 15:05 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-02-24 15:22 ` Robin Hill
2010-02-24 15:32 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-02-24 16:38 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-02-24 16:53 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-02-24 17:02 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-02-25 8:05 ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-25 16:27 ` Stefan /*St0fF*/ Hübner
2010-02-25 16:45 ` John Robinson
2010-02-25 17:41 ` Dawning Sky
2010-02-25 18:31 ` John Robinson
2010-02-26 2:42 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-26 20:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-28 11:50 ` Stefan /*St0fF*/ Hübner
2010-02-28 12:52 ` Stefan /*St0fF*/ Hübner [this message]
2010-02-24 17:09 ` Robin Hill
2010-02-24 17:28 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-02-24 17:35 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-02-24 18:12 ` Robin Hill
2010-02-24 19:54 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
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