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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	ming.m.lin@intel.com, sheng.yang@intel.com,
	Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>,
	KVM General <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	Fr??d??ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Enhance perf to support KVM
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:20:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B8D48F1.7020605@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100302171250.GF4779@ghostprotocols.net>

On 03/02/2010 06:12 PM, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> You imply lockstep updates because both are on the same source tree? I
> don't see why that would be required, there is an ABI contract to be
> respected no matter where the sources for the signatories live.

It's not about ABIs, it's about not being able to rely exclusively on 
new syscalls or flags (one for all: SOCK_NONBLOCK) because people can 
run new glibc on old kernels.

If libc had this luxury, it would possibly make a lot more sense to have 
it in the kernel tree.  But it doesn't.

Also, setting up a testing environment for glibc is not trivial, and the 
intersection of people that care about developing the kernel _and_ glibc 
is probably too small and opinionated to make this easier.

>I could've done both the kernel and userspace bits in the same patch.

You could add a glibc submodule to your git tree, and ask on the git 
list for help adding some kind of multi-destination support to 
git-{format-patch,send-email}.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-02 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1267068445.1726.25.camel@localhost>
     [not found] ` <1267089644.12790.74.camel@laptop>
2010-02-26  2:49   ` Enhance perf to support KVM Zhang, Yanmin
2010-02-26  9:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26  9:53       ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 10:35         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 10:47           ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 11:17             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 11:44               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 12:46                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 12:54                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 13:16                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 13:57                       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 14:04                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 14:23                         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 15:06                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-02 16:46                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-02 17:12                             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-02 17:20                               ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2010-03-02 17:24                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-02 17:17                             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07 14:17                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 18:33               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-27 10:56                 ` KVM usability Ingo Molnar
2010-02-27 13:30                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-02-27 13:30                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-02-27 14:48                   ` Ian Kirk
2010-02-27 15:32                   ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-27 17:25                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 15:33                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-01 16:48                       ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 17:41                         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-01 18:29                           ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 20:56                             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 21:45                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-01 22:06                                 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-02  0:33                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-02  0:30                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-02  2:34                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02  8:39                                   ` Chris Webb
2010-03-07 18:42                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-02 10:30                               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07  9:35                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07  9:56                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2010-03-07 10:11                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:42                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07 15:14                                   ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-07 18:16                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:01                                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-07 18:15                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:53                                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-07 19:05                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:25                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-01  9:25                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 15:36                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-01 15:14                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-01 15:42                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-02  1:12                     ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-02 10:11                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-02 13:37                       ` Nikolai K. Bochev
2010-03-02 14:22                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-02 14:29                           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07  9:22                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-02 14:37                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-02 14:52                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-02 14:56                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-02 15:13                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-04 20:00                       ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2010-03-04 20:13                         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-04 20:34                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-04 22:23                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-05  7:44                             ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-07 11:25                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-01 21:12                   ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-01 21:59                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02  2:34                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-02  2:36                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 13:32                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 14:32                             ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-09 14:38                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-09 14:50                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 14:52                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 14:57                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 17:11                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 17:27                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 17:30                                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 14:49                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 14:54                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-02  3:02                       ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-02  8:21                         ` Chris Webb
2010-03-02 14:54                           ` Dustin Kirkland
     [not found]                           ` <428008581.20100302103400@eternallybored.org>
2010-03-07 11:35                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-04 12:31                               ` High CPU use of -usbdevice tablet (was Re: KVM usability) Chris Webb
2010-04-04 12:31                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Webb
2010-04-04 14:25                                 ` Paul Brook
2010-04-04 14:25                                   ` Paul Brook
2010-04-04 16:58                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-04 16:58                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-04 21:03                                     ` Paul Brook
2010-04-04 21:03                                       ` Paul Brook
2010-04-04 21:53                                     ` Paul Brook
2010-04-04 21:53                                       ` Paul Brook
2010-04-05  8:22                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-05  8:22                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-03  2:57                       ` KVM usability Ross Boylan
2010-03-03  8:55                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-03 15:42                           ` Ross Boylan
2010-03-07 14:29                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 11:48             ` Enhance perf to support KVM Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-26 11:53               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 20:17           ` Anthony Liguori

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