From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Sheng Yang <sheng@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Zhang,
Yanmin" <yanmin.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kvm: Show guest system/user cputime in cpustat
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:50:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B98A0DE.1020006@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201003111546.44059.sheng@linux.intel.com>
On 03/11/2010 09:46 AM, Sheng Yang wrote:
> On Thursday 11 March 2010 15:36:01 Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>> On 03/11/2010 09:20 AM, Sheng Yang wrote:
>>
>>> Currently we can only get the cpu_stat of whole guest as one. This patch
>>> enhanced cpu_stat with more detail, has guest_system and guest_user cpu
>>> time statistics with a little overhead.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Sheng Yang<sheng@linux.intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> This draft patch based on KVM upstream to show the idea. I would split it
>>> into more kernel friendly version later.
>>>
>>> The overhead is, the cost of get_cpl() after each exit from guest.
>>>
>> This can be very expensive in the nested virtualization case, so I
>> wouldn't like this to be in normal paths. I think detailed profiling
>> like that can be left to 'perf kvm', which only has overhead if enabled
>> at runtime.
>>
> Yes, that's my concern too(though nested vmcs/vmcb read already too expensive,
> they should be optimized...).
Any ideas on how to do that? Perhaps use paravirt_ops to covert the
vmread into a memory read? We store the vmwrites in the vmcs anyway.
> The other concern is, perf alike mechanism would
> bring a lot more overhead compared to this.
>
Ordinarily users won't care if time is spent in guest kernel mode or
guest user mode. They want to see which guest is imposing a load on a
system. I consider a user profiling a guest from the host an advanced
and rarer use case, so it's okay to require tools and additional
overhead for this.
>> For example you can put the code to note the cpl in a tracepoint which
>> is enabled dynamically.
>>
> Yanmin have already implement "perf kvm" to support this. We are just arguing
> if a normal top-alike mechanism is necessary.
>
> I am also considering to make it a feature that can be disabled. But seems it
> make things complicate and result in uncertain cpustat output.
>
I'm not even sure that guest time was a good idea.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-11 7:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-11 7:20 [PATCH] x86/kvm: Show guest system/user cputime in cpustat Sheng Yang
2010-03-11 7:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-11 7:46 ` Sheng Yang
2010-03-11 7:50 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-03-11 8:21 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-03-11 9:17 ` Sheng Yang
2010-03-12 8:53 ` Qing He
2010-03-13 8:26 ` Avi Kivity
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