From: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>,
Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What's in a name? Let's use a (uuid,name,email) triplet
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:52:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BA38F9F.8050007@drmicha.warpmail.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e4733911003190733h62e2aea0i7573bba641f4d931@mail.gmail.com>
Jon Smirl venit, vidit, dixit 19.03.2010 15:33:
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Short Version:
>>> -------------
>>>
>>>
>>> Rather than use a (name,email) pair to identify people, let's use
>>> a (uuid,name,email) triplet.
>>>
>>> The uuid can be any piece of information that a user of git determines
>>> to be reasonably unique across space and time and that is intended to
>>> be used by that user virtually forever (at least within a project's
>>> history).
>>>
>>> For instance, the uuid could be an OSF DCE 1.1 UUID or the SHA-1 of
>>> some easily remembered, already reasonably unique information.
>>
>> ... or 'canonical-name canonical-email' pair.
>>
>>>
>>> This could really help keep identifications clean, and it is rather
>>> straightforward and possibly quite efficient.
>>>
>>>
>>> Long Version:
>>> ------------
>> [...]
>>
>>> While git's use of (name,email) pairs to identify each person is
>>> extremely practical, it turns out that it's rather `unstable';
>>
>> This is non-solution to non-problem.
>>
>> First, the user.name and user.email does not need to be name and email
>> from some email account. It might be some "canonical name" and
>> "canonical email".
>>
>> Second, there are (I think) two main sources of 'unstability' in
>> (name,email) pairs, namely A) misconfigured git (when fetching/pushing
>> using git itself), B) wrong name in email etc. (when sending patches
>> via email, 80% of patches in Linux kernel case).
>
> Another top source is mangling of non-ASCII charsets when they go
> though the email system. Are the git work flow tools safe for
> alternative charsets? Do the email tools look at the charset header of
> the email message? Check people's names in the kernel commits and
> you'll find lots of examples of this type of mangling.
>
Or even the quoting of quotes for nick names, appearing as 'nick',
"nick", \"nick\", nick and what not.
> Or people not using UTF-8. There are files in the kernel where
> people's names are in conflicting codepages. Should git try to look
> for diffs that aren't UTF-8?
You and others are proving a very important point here: This is really
an lkml proxy fight being taken to the git list, after the futile
mailmap-ification there.
People may disagree on the best approach in general, but this thread
clearly shows:
- The Git community is happy with mailmap for git.git.
- The Git community does not see any need for amending the mailmap
mechanism.
- How you actually use mailmap (leniently or enforcing) is a per-project
decision, just like the patch workflow, the meaning and use of s-o-b
lines, the requirement for full names and many other things.
But since the git list is hosted on kernel.org we can't really complain
about providing room for an lkml discussion ;)
Michael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-19 15:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-18 13:23 What's in a name? Let's use a (uuid,name,email) triplet Michael Witten
2010-03-18 13:48 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 14:26 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 18:42 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 18:47 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-03-18 18:57 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 19:12 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 20:44 ` tytso
2010-03-18 21:12 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 21:19 ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 21:29 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 21:39 ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 21:46 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 21:55 ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 22:02 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 23:37 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 23:44 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 0:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-19 0:27 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 0:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 22:06 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-18 21:57 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:34 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-19 12:43 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-19 13:03 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 13:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-19 13:13 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 13:41 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2010-03-19 13:59 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 14:13 ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 21:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 21:44 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 23:12 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 19:02 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:16 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 19:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:37 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 19:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-19 19:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-03-18 20:31 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-18 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:32 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:47 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 20:00 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 19:52 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2010-03-18 19:40 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2010-03-18 19:42 ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 22:36 ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 23:17 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 23:26 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 23:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 23:41 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 23:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-19 0:16 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19 0:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-19 0:39 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19 0:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-19 1:12 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19 1:45 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-19 2:05 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 23:34 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 22:17 ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-03-19 2:47 ` Sitaram Chamarty
2010-03-19 5:17 ` Nazri Ramliy
2010-03-19 8:41 ` Michael Haggerty
2010-03-19 11:39 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 11:45 ` david
2010-03-19 11:54 ` Mike Hommey
2010-03-19 12:09 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-19 12:16 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:18 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 14:57 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-19 15:26 ` Michael J Gruber
2010-03-19 16:05 ` david
2010-03-19 17:16 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:25 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19 12:40 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-19 12:09 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-22 12:06 ` Mark Brown
2010-03-22 14:38 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-24 19:18 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-03-24 19:23 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:08 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 14:08 ` Michael Haggerty
2010-03-19 17:02 ` david
2010-03-19 17:06 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-24 18:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-19 14:08 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-03-19 14:33 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19 14:52 ` Michael J Gruber [this message]
2010-03-19 14:40 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 14:56 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-03-19 15:05 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 15:12 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 15:25 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-03-19 15:12 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-20 0:21 ` Jakub Narebski
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