From: Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc/fsl: add device tree binding for QE firmware
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:25:05 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BAA5901.7000707@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa686aa41003241110u75e9486dn503c6b039944708c@mail.gmail.com>
Grant Likely wrote:
> Thanks. This is important information when talking about his.
>
> You can also put it into an initrd and use the Linux firmware loader.
We may also need to support non-Linux operating systems that don't use an initrd. For now, an initrd might work. I don't know how I'll convince our BSP team to start using one, though.
> That would also neatly solve your GPL distribution issues.
True.
> Also, depending on U-Boot (or any other boot firmware) to correctly
> squirt the QE blob into
> the dtb at boot is risky. Even when U-Boot is buggy, there is
> resistance to upgrading U-Boot
> on working boards because it could result in a bricked board.
Ok, that makes more sense, but we're not talking about upgrading U-Boot. Once U-Boot has the capability to inject the QE blob into the DTB, then upgrading the QE blob won't require an upgrade to U-Boot. The QE blob is still a QE blob.
> You're right, that wouldn't be very nice. Try this syntax instead:
>
> fsl,firmware = /incbin/("firmware-file-name.bin");
It's not a bad idea, but it would require firmware-file-name.bin to be distributed with the kernel itself, otherwise building the DTB will be complicated. The path to firmware-file-name.bin would need to be hard-coded in the DTS.
> You've got the distribution problem that needs to be solved regardless
> because it cannot be part of U-Boot either. How do you plan to handle
> QE firmware distribution and loading?
Today, we just put the QE blob somewhere in flash, and then U-Boot is told about like this:
#define CONFIG_SYS_QE_FW_ADDR 0xfff00000
Then we have GPL code in U-Boot that uploads it.
But you do have a point -- once we embed the QE blob in the DTB, whether it's a DTB created by DTC or updated by U-Boot, we might already have a GPL issue. I'll have to get back to you on that one.
--
Timur Tabi
Linux kernel developer at Freescale
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Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-23 21:42 [PATCH] powerpc/fsl: add device tree binding for QE firmware Timur Tabi
2010-03-23 21:42 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-24 6:07 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-24 6:07 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-24 12:05 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-24 12:05 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-24 17:00 ` Segher Boessenkool
2010-03-24 17:00 ` Segher Boessenkool
2010-03-24 17:07 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-24 17:07 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-24 17:31 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-24 17:31 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-24 18:10 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-24 18:10 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-24 18:21 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-03-24 18:21 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-03-24 18:25 ` Timur Tabi [this message]
2010-03-24 18:24 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-03-24 18:31 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-24 18:31 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 1:49 ` Segher Boessenkool
2010-03-25 1:49 ` Segher Boessenkool
2010-03-25 14:42 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 14:42 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 16:10 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 16:10 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 16:34 ` Scott Wood
2010-03-25 16:34 ` Scott Wood
2010-03-25 16:46 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 16:46 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-26 18:23 ` Rafal Jaworowski
2010-03-26 18:23 ` Rafal Jaworowski
2010-03-25 23:53 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-03-25 23:53 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-03-26 0:22 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-26 0:22 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 15:16 ` Scott Wood
2010-03-25 15:16 ` Scott Wood
2010-03-25 15:29 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-03-25 15:29 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-03-25 16:16 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 16:16 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 16:36 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 16:36 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 16:50 ` Scott Wood
2010-03-25 16:50 ` Scott Wood
2010-03-25 16:59 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 16:59 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 17:03 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 17:35 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 17:35 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 18:05 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 19:53 ` Scott Wood
2010-03-25 19:53 ` Scott Wood
2010-03-25 20:04 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 21:54 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 21:54 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 22:19 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 22:19 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-25 21:39 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 21:39 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-25 22:47 ` Scott Wood
2010-03-25 22:47 ` Scott Wood
2010-03-25 21:22 ` David Gibson
2010-03-25 21:22 ` David Gibson
2010-03-26 1:26 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 1:26 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 15:17 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-26 15:17 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-26 18:20 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 18:20 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 18:39 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-26 18:44 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 18:44 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 18:48 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-26 18:48 ` Timur Tabi
2010-03-26 18:56 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 18:56 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 18:58 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-03-26 18:58 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-03-26 19:07 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 19:07 ` Grant Likely
2010-03-26 18:48 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-03-26 18:48 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-03-24 18:27 ` Scott Wood
2010-03-24 18:27 ` Scott Wood
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