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From: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, aurelien@aurel32.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10, v3] target-alpha improvements
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 06:37:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BACB89B.4070809@twiddle.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100326015252.GG19308@shareable.org>

On 03/25/2010 06:52 PM, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> I guess you are thinking to save the value loaded by load-locked,
> and use it as the "old" for host cmpxchg at target's
> store-conditional?

Yes.

> It'll be fine when ll/sc are only used to provide single-word atomic
> calculations, but I'm not sure those are the only uses to which they
> are put by any code anywhere.  E.g. if I remember rightly, there was
> some discussion of a planned unusual ll/sc use on the linux-arm
> list, which involved a second word, but the idea wasn't ever
> implemented.

"It is UNPREDICTABLE whether a processor's lock_flag is cleared by
that processor executing a normal load or store instruction."

So at least on Alpha your double-word update isn't supposed to work.

Now, what the cmpxchg *doesn't* handle is when the store isn't to
exactly the same address as the load.  The Alpha spec does allow the
store to be anywhere within the same 16-byte aligned block, and we
can't handle that.  That said, I'm pretty sure such a non-matching
store is never used on Linux.

> So stop-the-world ought to remain in, but only as a last resort to
> be used when the ll/sc sequence doesn't pass the no-funny-business
> test.

The existing stop-the-world implementation is *exactly* cmpxchg.

It doesn't do what you want: stop the world at the ll, resume the
world at the sc (or other suitable subsequent condition e.g. taken
branch or N executed instructions).


r~

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-26 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-25  0:24 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10, v3] target-alpha improvements Richard Henderson
2010-03-12 18:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] target-alpha: Add flags markups to helpers.h Richard Henderson
2010-03-12 19:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] target-alpha: Implement cpys{, n, e} inline Richard Henderson
2010-03-15 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] target-alpha: Implement rs/rc properly Richard Henderson
2010-03-15 15:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] target-alpha: Implement cvtlq inline Richard Henderson
2010-03-16 20:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] target-alpha: Use setcond for int comparisons Richard Henderson
2010-03-16 21:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] target-alpha: Use non-inverted arguments to gen_{f}cmov Richard Henderson
2010-03-16 22:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] target-alpha: Emit goto_tb opcodes Richard Henderson
2010-03-19 22:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] target-alpha: Implement cvtql inline Richard Henderson
2010-03-25  0:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] target-alpha: Implement load-locked/store-conditional properly Richard Henderson
2010-03-25 13:39   ` Nathan Froyd
2010-03-25 15:46     ` Richard Henderson
2010-03-25 16:06       ` Nathan Froyd
2010-03-25 16:29         ` Richard Henderson
2010-03-25 16:42           ` Nathan Froyd
2010-03-25 16:50             ` Richard Henderson
2010-03-25 17:40       ` Blue Swirl
2010-03-25 18:19         ` Richard Henderson
2010-03-26  1:55           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26  2:01       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25  0:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] target-alpha: Enable NPTL Richard Henderson
2010-03-26  1:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10, v3] target-alpha improvements Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26 13:37   ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2010-04-01 13:44   ` Paul Brook

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