From: David Arendt <admin-/LHdS3kC8BfYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
To: Ryusuke Konishi <ryusuke-sG5X7nlA6pw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-nilfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: cleaner: run one cleaning pass based on minimum free space
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:32:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BAE4F4D.6000004@prnet.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100328.024853.37589748.ryusuke-sG5X7nlA6pw@public.gmane.org>
Hi,
On 03/27/10 18:48, Ryusuke Konishi wrote:
> Hi David,
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:35:00 +0100, David Arendt wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> just for completeness, here is a re-post of the complete patch using
>> cleanerd->c_running instead of local variable "sleeping".
>>
>> Bye,
>> David Arendt
>>
> Sorry for my late response.
>
> I'm planning to apply your patch.
>
> The patch looks reducible some more, for example, the preparation:
>
>
>> + if (cleanerd->c_config.cf_min_clean_segments > 0) {
>> + syslog(LOG_INFO, "cleaner paused");
>> + cleanerd->c_running = 0;
>> + timeout.tv_sec = cleanerd->c_config.cf_clean_check_interval;
>> + timeout.tv_nsec = 0;
>> + }
>> + else
>> + cleanerd->c_running = 1;
>> +
>>
> can be simplified as follows:
>
> if (cleanerd->c_config.cf_min_clean_segments == 0)
> cleanerd->c_running = 1;
>
>
Well, the cleanerd->c_running=0 would not be needed, but I thought the
code would be more understandable if putting it once again here. As I
start in paused state, I thought it would also be good to log this
paused state. The time initialisation is done here as otherwise it would
have always to be done inside the loop using a very very little bit more
resources. It think it could be better readable if I would make to
functions pause and resume and calling the respective functions. I will
make a try and send you the revised patch, so you can tell me what you
think about it.
> And, the status control using cleanerd->c_running seems to have room
> for improvement. Except for these trivial matters, your change looks
> simple but effective, and is flawlessly keeping compatibility.
>
> If you have a revised patch, please send me for merge. Also, I would
> appreciate it if you could write some changelog description.
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Ryusuke Konishi
>
>
Bye,
David Arendt
>> On 03/17/10 19:11, Ryusuke Konishi wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:24:28 +0100, David Arendt wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Well I didn't know that a few days can pass as fast :-)
>>>>
>>>> I have attached the patch to this mail.
>>>>
>>>> Until now the patch has only been shortly tested on a loop device, so it
>>>> might contain bugs and destroy your data.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thank you for posting the patch!
>>>
>>> The patch looks rougly ok to me.
>>> I'll comment on it later.
>>>
>>> At first glance, I felt it would be nice if cleanerd->c_running is
>>> nicely used instead of adding a local variable "sleeping".
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ryusuke Konishi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you decide to apply it, please change the default values to the ones
>>>> you find the most appropriate.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Bye,
>>>> David Arendt
>>>>
>>>> On 03/15/10 16:58, Ryusuke Konishi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:03:45 +0100, David Arendt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am posting this again to the correct mailing list as I cc'ed it to the
>>>>>> old inactive one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I am understanding something wrong, but if I would use the count
>>>>>> of reclaimed segments, how could I determine if one cleaning pass has
>>>>>> finished as I don't know in advance how many segments could be reclaimed ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> For example, how about this?
>>>>>
>>>>> nmax = (number of segments) - (number of clean segments)
>>>>> nblk = (max_clean_segments - (number of clean segments)) *
>>>>> (number of blocks per segment)
>>>>>
>>>>> * If (number of clean segments) < min_clean_segments, then start reclamation
>>>>> * Try to reclaim nmax segments (at a maximum).
>>>>> * When the cleaner found and freed nblk blocks during the
>>>>> reclamation, then end one cleaning pass.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another approach would be not basing cleaning on a whole cleaning pass
>>>>>> but instead creating these addtional configfile options:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # start cleaning if less than 100 free segments
>>>>>> min_clean_segments 100
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # stop cleaning if more than 200 free segments
>>>>>> max_clean_segments 200
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # check free space once an hour
>>>>>> segment_check_interval 3600
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically in this example if less than 800mb are free cleaner is run
>>>>>> until 1600mb are free. If min_clean_segments is 0, the cleaner would do
>>>>>> normal operation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The first two parameters look Ok.
>>>>> (I've already referred to these in the above example.)
>>>>>
>>>>> We may well be able to make segment_check_interval more frequent.
>>>>> or do you have something in mind?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean interval of cleaning passes ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> For this solution only changes in configfile loading and
>>>>>> nilfs_cleanerd_clean_loop would be necessary which would lower the risk
>>>>>> of introducing new bugs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this solution is ok for you, I will implement it this way and send
>>>>>> you the patch in a few days. Also tell me if the names I have choosen
>>>>>> for the options are ok for you or if you would prefer other ones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The option names look fine to me.
>>>>> Or should we use percentage for them?
>>>>> (number of segments is device dependent)
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anything else that isn't clear?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>> Bye,
>>>>>> David Arendt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ryusuke Konishi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/14/10 15:28, Ryusuke Konishi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:00:19 +0100, admin-/LHdS3kC8BfYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will try to implement this myself then. Concerning the
>>>>>>>> nilfs_cleanerd_select segments function I was unclear in my post. In
>>>>>>>> fact I did not mean the return value but the first element from the
>>>>>>>> segnums array.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok. So you thought of determining termination of one cleaning pass by
>>>>>>> the segment number stored preliminarily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not just use count of processed (i.e. reclaimed) segments?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that it's not guranteed that segments are selected in the order
>>>>>>> of segment number though this premise looks almost right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It depends on the behavior of segment allocator and the current
>>>>>>> "Select-oldest" algorithm used behind
>>>>>>> nilfs_cleanerd_select_segments(). Nilfs log writer occasionally
>>>>>>> behaves differently and disturbs this order.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you can ignore the exceptional behavior of the segment
>>>>>>> allocator, and rotate target segments with skipping free or mostly
>>>>>>> in-use ones. In that case, nilfs_cleanerd_select_segments() should be
>>>>>>> modified to select segments in the order of segment number.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Ryusuke Konishi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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2010-03-14 13:00 cleaner: run one cleaning pass based on minimum free space admin-/LHdS3kC8BfYtjvyW6yDsg
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2010-03-14 14:28 ` Ryusuke Konishi
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2010-03-14 23:03 ` David Arendt
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2010-03-15 15:58 ` Ryusuke Konishi
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2010-03-15 17:09 ` David Arendt
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2010-03-17 17:26 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2010-03-15 21:24 ` David Arendt
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2010-03-17 18:11 ` Ryusuke Konishi
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2010-03-17 19:04 ` David Arendt
2010-03-24 5:35 ` David Arendt
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2010-03-27 17:48 ` Ryusuke Konishi
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2010-03-27 18:32 ` David Arendt [this message]
2010-03-27 20:00 ` David Arendt
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2010-03-28 1:55 ` Ryusuke Konishi
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2010-03-28 12:17 ` David Arendt
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2010-03-28 15:26 ` Ryusuke Konishi
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2010-03-28 21:52 ` David Arendt
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2010-03-29 3:59 ` Ryusuke Konishi
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2010-03-29 4:35 ` David Arendt
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2010-03-29 7:39 ` Ryusuke Konishi
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2010-04-05 3:02 ` Ryusuke Konishi
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2010-04-05 7:50 ` David Arendt
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2010-04-05 11:34 ` Ryusuke Konishi
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2010-04-06 16:06 ` Ryusuke Konishi
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2010-04-06 17:41 ` David Arendt
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2010-04-07 10:39 ` admin-/LHdS3kC8BfYtjvyW6yDsg
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2010-03-16 11:17 ` admin-/LHdS3kC8BfYtjvyW6yDsg
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